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MSantiago

 

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Tomatito Strings by Savarez 

I thought Tomatito uses Luthier 20s? Anyone try these yet? http://www.stringsbymail.com/store/savarez-tomatito-t50r-normal-tension-flamenco-full-set-7135.html
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mottallica

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to MSantiago

quote:

matito uses Luthier 20s? Anyone try these yet?


me - not worth the money
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 30 2012 17:26:24
 
Estevan

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to MSantiago

quote:

Anyone try these yet?

It's just Cantiga basses with new Cristal 1 and 2, and Alliance 3. Exactly the combination I happened to be using just before this package came out, without paying extra for the Tomatito picture on the front. They work for me, but I don't know about you.

If you like that combination, then you'll like them, but you can save a little $ by ordering them separately. (This will not make you sound less like Tomatito.)

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to MSantiago

They will make you sound exactly like Tomatito.

Thats well worth 15 bucks a set.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 30 2012 18:54:25
 
Harry

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to MSantiago

I tried these strings when they first came out, and even after a few weeks they did not hold tune. I remember a representative saying that this issue had been corrected, but I am sure that first batch did a lot of damage to this line of strings.

I love the packaging and all, but they are a little expensive for me. As Estevan points out, you could always buy the strings seperately to construct the Tomatito pack.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 30 2012 19:32:20
 
Estevan

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to ToddK

quote:

They will make you sound exactly like Tomatito.

And Luthier strings will make you sound like Anders. Or Estebanana.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 30 2012 19:36:25

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to Estevan

If Tomatito used Tomatito signature strings, he would sound more fusion jazz.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 30 2012 19:43:29
 
Ricardo

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to MSantiago

tomatito uses la bella.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Apr. 30 2012 21:22:24
 
Manitas de Lata

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to MSantiago

i try those some years pre covid on my cheap camps classical cedar/indian and i hated the sound and tension(hard lol..) , killed completly the sweet mellow sound and old cedar.
after that i tried luthier 20s (i guess) and it was almost the same

Im trying again on this guitar and im enjoying a lot , the price is little cheaper that i would purchase
Sounds and feels great without hot trevles , they re a little cold , works really well on my guitar

Im going to check if its cheaper to purchase each pack separatly
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 4 2024 20:43:42
 
AndresK

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to Manitas de Lata

If you want to get the Tomatito cheaper buy the Cantiga creation sets. They are the same with 1st, 2nd nylon, 3rd alliance. If you need even more brightness with addition of more fluorocarbon (alliance) get the evolution set that has 1st nylon, 2nd and 3rd alliance.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 4 2024 21:20:17
 
Manitas de Lata

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to AndresK

yesterday and today the strings doesnt sound the same , like they are out of tune , and they get out of tune more often

didnt passed 15 days and i think they wear out.... ****kk...

is there any option like these that last longer? for me thats the only issue , love the sound , tension and fell´

Is these the same? premium lasts 1 month (+-)

https://www.savarez.com/guitare-classiquecreation-cantiga-premiumcreation-cantiga-premium-normal-tension-510mrp
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 13 2024 19:00:14
 
oscary

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to MSantiago

Hey there! Bummer about your Flamenco guitar strings wearing out so fast. If you're digging the sound and feel of those Savarez Cantiga Premium strings but need something that lasts a bit longer, you might want to explore other brands or types. Every Flamenco guitarist has their own favorites, so there's definitely something out there for you. Also, a little tip - keeping your strings clean and your guitar in a good spot can really help extend their life. Happy strumming!Flamenco miami
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 13 2024 20:52:01
 
Manitas de Lata

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to MSantiago

the temperature and humidty here is strange right now , from the transition of winter to spring

last days 2oº max and 11 low.... sometimes 15/17 13low or whatever , and its dificult to maintain an acurate temperature with the heater at night.
so it can be from it...

need to try during the day ...so only saturday i can assure if its wear off or not
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 14 2024 9:20:45
 
Ricardo

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to Manitas de Lata

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=341963&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=tomatito%2Csavarez&tmode=&smode=&s=#341965

Use La Bella 820 (red trebles).

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 14 2024 12:48:23
 
Manitas de Lata

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to Ricardo

classical version?

tried the flamenco red nylon on the classical and it was very dificult to get a nice sound , only with rasgeo, With the flamenco guitar the sound was better but killed a lot of the sound
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 14 2024 13:18:49
 
Ricardo

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to Manitas de Lata

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ORIGINAL: Manitas de Lata

classical version?

tried the flamenco red nylon on the classical and it was very dificult to get a nice sound , only with rasgeo, With the flamenco guitar the sound was better but killed a lot of the sound


It is all in the fingers amigo. . Here is some classical on Labella reds:



Makes my guitar sound just like a piano!!

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 14 2024 13:36:46
 
Manitas de Lata

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to Ricardo

didnt enjoyed that plastic sound and no sustain.

but yes , a pro is a pro , everything sounds goods... , not my case
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 14 2024 15:00:14
 
Ricardo

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to Manitas de Lata

quote:

ORIGINAL: Manitas de Lata

didnt enjoyed that plastic sound and no sustain.

but yes , a pro is a pro , everything sounds goods... , not my case


Sustain? Can you not see what I am playing, jumping position 4 times in a beat? Anyway, these strings really sing on most guitars, I am using a dry Blanca. Call it “plastic” if you want, but that is what all nylon sounds like.

Here is a negra with same strings and actual sustained notes lol.



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 15 2024 11:03:57
 
Manitas de Lata

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to Ricardo

guitar is better , the player is better but you also really press to get the sound . Personal taste , youre willing to sacrifice some sustain to have other tone that you enjoy more, and you can do it the guitar is nice (beside factory rosete..) and also the player.

Sorry but i dont agree with what , that all nylon sound the same , those red plastic (dont know if the blacks are the same) are like Squash (or tenis) strings ... i wouldnt be shocked if someone tells me that they are made in same place.

Im really enjoying more Solea , Granainas , Mineras ,Seguriyas
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 15 2024 13:05:01
 
Ricardo

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to Manitas de Lata

As my friend would say in English “poor of you”.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 15 2024 13:37:57
 
Manitas de Lata

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to Ricardo

few hours ago 5 gipsies stole my cars catalyst , pure flamenco experience

****
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 15 2024 21:20:56
 
Ricardo

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to Manitas de Lata

quote:

ORIGINAL: Manitas de Lata

few hours ago 5 gipsies stole my cars catalyst , pure flamenco experience

****


That is called “car-ma” … it is what you get for disagreeing with folks trying to be helpful.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 16 2024 16:03:51
 
Manitas de Lata

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to Ricardo

yep its karma , pretty ****ty week , and also spent some quid , of course that some thing would happen to end the week in an awefull manner
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Mar. 16 2024 16:16:17
 
Manitas de Lata

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to Manitas de Lata

the issue wasnt the strings but the high humidty and low temperature, the strings are still going with nice sound (due to my playing hiato) , but will change in near future and put them on the cheaper guitar.

so i revived the topic to find the right Savarez Combo , same than Tomatito Pack but cheaper
i found months ago but didnt save the model

So Tomatito model are same price (and seems to be the same strings) + - than these premium , maybe just maybe these premium last longer than tomatito
Same price/measures

https://www.savarez.com/guitare-classiquecreation-cantiga-premiumcreation-cantiga-premium-normal-tension-510mrp

ALLIANCE CANTIGA NORMAL TENSION 510AR


lets try to find the same without premium.. Cheaper alternative :

NEW CRISTAL CORUM NORMAL TENSION 500CR (not same measures)

NEW CRISTAL CANTIGA NORMAL TENSION 510CR (almost the same..)

NEW CRISTAL CANTIGA MIXED TENSION 510CRJ (mixed says all)

CREATION CANTIGA Normal Tension 510MR (same strings but not too much price difference)

CREATION CANTIGA guitar set Mixed tension 510MRJ (mixed says all not too much price diference)

NEW CRISTAL CLASSIC NORMAL TENSION 540CR (cheaper not the same but family)
NEW CRISTAL CLASSIC TENSION MIXTE 540CRJ (same as above)
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 21 2024 13:03:53
 
silddx

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to Manitas de Lata

I am using 510MJ high tension (nylon with carbon G / Cantiga basses) on the old Conde and I quite like them, but will be trying 510AJP high tension carbons soon to see how they feel and sound.

The D'Addario EJ45/46FF carbons I like on my Ariza don't feel or sound right to me on the Conde, nor do the EJ45 nylon. But I like the the Savarez sets I have tried so far.

It seems to take about 5 or 6 sets to find the strings I prefer on a new guitar.

One thing I do know, I do not like black nylon, or La Bella. They did not feel or sound right for me/the guitar.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 21 2024 22:16:37
 
Manitas de Lata

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to silddx

yep thats my general opinion , i think Ricardo dont agree on that.

what i try to do , is to have strings that maintain the best caracteristics of the guitar or that bring them to come out

i like labella flamenco medium tension (feels almost low) very nice on rasgeo , but the first strings are somekind of dull , kills the sustain, you have to do a big effort to a sustain... and in some guitars that dont have to much of it...forget it , of course you dont need a lot of sustain like classic but if you want to play legatos you will need some
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 22 2024 9:52:58
 
silddx

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to Manitas de Lata

quote:

what i try to do , is to have strings that maintain the best caracteristics of the guitar or that bring them to come out


I was told by a couple of pros that flamencos often choose the strings that feel best, as a priority over the sound.

I also read that the guitar will tell you what strings she likes.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 22 2024 13:45:57
 
Manitas de Lata

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to silddx

im a beginner and i agree on that , but i try to do both , sound and feel .
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 22 2024 15:20:59
 
silddx

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to Manitas de Lata

I just put the Savarez 510AJP high tension carbon trebles on the old Conde and they immediately felt and sounded better.

It still has the standard Cantiga basses, I think I prefer the standard Cantiga to the Premium, but we'll see.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 22 2024 18:02:15
 
Manitas de Lata

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RE: Tomatito Strings by Savarez (in reply to silddx

you dont have afraid of high tension ****s the guitar over the time? and normally not much friend of our shoulders, hands and or other parts

tell me if you find a deal like yours
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