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Haydn

 

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Favourite Soleá 

I thought it might be fun if everyone shared their favourite soleá. I recently heard Paco Peña's Acerca Del Río, ( ) and was blown away by the smooth, cascading ligado runs. It inspired me not only to attempt to learn it, but piqued my curiosity: what is everyone else digging at the moment?

Post a video, or link, of your current fave, (or even better one of you playing it), and an explanation of why you're into it.

Maybe it'll uncover a few relatively unknown gems to us beginning flamencos, too.

Haydn
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Gimar Yestra

 

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RE: Favourite Soleá (in reply to Haydn

Haydn, thank for posting that Paco Peña soléa, I realy liked it.

I'm currently quite fascinated with Paco de Lucía's Soléa called Gloria al niño ricardo from the siroco album.

and also this one :-) the ending is so groovy


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KMMI77

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RE: Favourite Soleá (in reply to Haydn

I don't have a favorite but there are two i find most inspiring at the moment.

First is Mano a Mano form Pascual Gallo's CD Emma. I like the aire of pascual gallo and that the structure is traditional. He has a way of making something i've heard a thousand times sound fresh again.

Second is the video below. Lots to work on in this one.




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kudo

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RE: Favourite Soleá (in reply to Haydn

I love the aire of solea and dramatic pauses and "ancientness" in it, so for PURO
my favorite is the Moron style by diego del gastor:


as for moderno: I find Diego del Morao really emotional and dark:


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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 28 2011 2:33:12
 
KMMI77

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RE: Favourite Soleá (in reply to kudo

quote:

as for moderno: I find Diego del Morao really emotional and dark:


In my opinion that's a Solea por bulerias. The aire and the strumming is that of solea por bulerias, as is the tempo. It also fails to quote anything related to traditional soleares IMO.

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kudo

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RE: Favourite Soleá (in reply to KMMI77

it might have the rhythmic spb feel but its still is a solea. yes, ofcourse thats why its moderno and not puro traditional

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 28 2011 3:03:48
 
KMMI77

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RE: Favourite Soleá (in reply to kudo

quote:

it might have the rhythmic spb feel but its still is a solea.


Thanks for the explanation Bambera, Caña, Solea, Solea por bulerias, All the same thing with modern flamenco guitar solos. Just add the name.

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Ricardo

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RE: Favourite Soleá (in reply to KMMI77

quote:

ORIGINAL: KMMI77

quote:

as for moderno: I find Diego del Morao really emotional and dark:


In my opinion that's a Solea por bulerias. The aire and the strumming is that of solea por bulerias, as is the tempo. It also fails to quote anything related to traditional soleares IMO.


We talked loads about this issue a while back. There is a cante called Buleria por solea, and then you have different kinds of solea from different regions and individuals. The Solea style in Jerez was always accompanied a bit quicker and often por medio. I blame dancers for inventing the term "solea por buleria" to differ it from the feel and key of Solea that they like to dance that uses Alcala melody.

So Jerezanos tend to interpret Solea always as solea por bulerias as we think of it nowadays, but to THEM it was always simply the way they like to play Solea. Also you will notice a trend to do super fast Siguirya a la Piriñaca, also from jerez, vs siguiriyas from other regions will be slower.

So don't get all scared if some one calls it Solea. But the WEIRD thing about Diego's piece is it is por Rondeña. Gerardo did the same thing with Cigala on Jucal....and Gerardo is also from Jerez!

So you are also correct. To be most clear, he should have called his Solea "Buleria por Solea en tono de Rondeña de Ramon Montoya"

Oh my favorite Solea cante is Platero's version in Rito y Geografia...the guy was unknown to me at first hearing and he blew my mind...and I still like it. For baile, Farruco sr and nieto in the first Flamenco movie of Saura, and for guitar I like Paco's Plaza Alta, the way it builds is very intense.

Ricardo

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Aug. 28 2011 4:38:01
 
KMMI77

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RE: Favourite Soleá (in reply to Ricardo

quote:

We talked loads about this issue a while back.


That's what we do here isn't it Keep going over the same stuff

quote:

There is a cante called Buleria por solea, and then you have different kinds of solea from different regions and individuals.


On some of the old cassettes i have Bulerias por solea was a popular title. From memory they were often titled this when played por arriba and titled solea por bulerias when played por medio. Not sure if it was just coincidence or not? But if key was any motivation for deciding on the title solea por bulerias or bulerias por solea, The modern use of many keys has thrown a spanner in the works

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xirdneH_imiJ

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RE: Favourite Soleá (in reply to Ricardo

and it's not even a proper rondeña tuning as it's DADF#AD!

it's definitely a favorite of mine, along with Gerardo's Soleá de la Luna Coja, and Paco's La Villa Vieja...
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Ricardo

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RE: Favourite Soleá (in reply to xirdneH_imiJ

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and it's not even a proper rondeña tuning as it's DADF#AD!


Really? Cool didn't notice that, so not really from montoya then either.

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henrym3483

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RE: Favourite Soleá (in reply to Ricardo

rafael riqueni's solea a canales, superb, just love the whole composition.




and Morao's solea bronce

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RE: Favourite Soleá (in reply to Ricardo

quote:

But the WEIRD thing about Diego's piece is it is por Rondeña.


Not that weird. Niño Miguel recorded a bulería in rondeña tuning back in the ’70s.

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tele

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RE: Favourite Soleá (in reply to espartano

Paco de lucia's solea in teatro real live.

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withinity

 

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RE: Favourite Soleá (in reply to Haydn

Not sure about favorite but the vintage recording quality sound and tone of the guitar comes across very 'Raw' to me in this Soleares by Carlos Montoya.

http://youtu.be/hRVb64R9J_8
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Morante

 

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RE: Favourite Soleá (in reply to Haydn

Tomás Pavón: A mi mare de mi alma.
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