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Dyes to stain wood before FP
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estebanana
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RE: Dyes to stain wood before FP (in reply to Andy Culpepper)
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I've done color coats on blanca's by padding over a well established clear body coat and then clear over the color. It's difficult and finicky. Spraying makes it easier and faster. However if you take time to layer colors and not simply to get the Conde' orange, you can make beautiful surfaces and rich, rich color. It takes time and it's super labor intensive. Then a flamenco player will scuff it up just because of the nature of the playing. But if you seal with clear and then do the classic layering of yellow, and then tone it down with brown and then some red over the top and then clear you'll get a glow in the finish that is uncommon. The colors yellow, brown and red come naturally from the shellac so you don't have to add any color. Garnet makes the red, Bysaki is usually more brownish and you can buy a lemon yellow that is bleached shellac. It would be nice to experiment more with color in the finish, but I would go in a different direction more than making Conde' orange, like Guarneri pink, or Vuilluame Red~ I've always wondered why they used that orange, and thought is it a reference to the violin varnishes that used oranges and reds? If so once you see a real old varnish that is intact you'll never look twice at a Conde' because there is no comparison. I know that sounds snobby and well perhaps it is, but once you see a subtle translucent varnish the orange in the Conde' mixture looks brutal and garish. So I suppose I have a deep seeded bias against the orange guitar because I grew up looking at violin varnish. I have a friend who has been experimenting with great results at using varnish on his classical guitars. Everyone says it's wrong to varnish guitars, but his finishes are light and beautiful. I'm think I might try it at some point soon. The main problem is that guitarists have come to expect a glossy glass like surface as part of the aesthetic of the guitar. Varnishing lightly can put a good protective film on the instrument, but it's more difficult to achieve that hard glassy surface the guitar world loves. In the process of building enough varnish to do that you might have to put too much varnish on the guitar. If guitarist was willing to go with a guitar that was not high gloss with subtle color I would try it.
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