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avimuno

 

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RE: Spanish Revolution (in reply to Donald

I was in the one going from Plaza de Espana to Plaza de la Encarnation in Sevilla yesterday... I didn't see any incident... I'll upload some videos.
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Kate

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RE: Spanish Revolution (in reply to Estevan

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ORIGINAL: Estevan
Typical Commie wacko!




Los Idignados, como moviemiento social, espontáneo, totalmente PLURAL, APARTIDISTA, ASINDICAL, ARRELIGIOSO y libre de banderas e insignias, pretendemos dar VOZ al las propuestas ciudanas PACIFICAMENTE dialogando. DEMOCRATICAMENTE vamos a intentar solucionar un sistema insosteniblle para los ciudanos normales como nosotros.


That's what is says on my T-shirt anyway

It was an amazing demonstration, so many of us. As we marched along Gran Via we saw Pimiento leaning out of his window taking photos. I put my hands in the air and waved at him which made Harold laugh as everyone at that point had their hands in the air waving, but to our surprise Pimiento actually saw us among the throng.

The papers report there were 20,000 of us but we were outnumbered later when Granada FC returned triumphant and 50,000 people took to the streets to celebrate.

Anyway Los Indignados are having an impact and the political parties are falling over backwards to try and come up with solutions.

Something which seriously needs looking at are the way the banks here deal with mortgage defaulters. Not only do they repossess the houses they also demand the mortgage is still paid in full. In UK it is possible to go and hand your keys into the bank, giving them your house back and cancelling the debt. In Spain the debt remains even though you may now be broke, jobless and homeless.

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RE: Spanish Revolution (in reply to Kate

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ORIGINAL: Kate

In UK it is possible to go and hand your keys into the bank, giving them your house back and cancelling the debt. In Spain the debt remains even though you may now be broke, jobless and homeless.


Which could be partial background as to why German banks invested so much. To my understanding they count to the most rigid and inhumane of the international banking scene.
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ORIGINAL: Kate
The papers report there were 20,000 of us but we were outnumbered later when Granada FC returned triumphant and 50,000 people took to the streets to celebrate.

Just besides: I once read that the biggest paper in Spain was a soccer gazette.

Ruphus
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Estevan

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RE: Spanish Revolution (in reply to Kate

"It was planned to be one of the final parliamentary appearances by José Luis Rodriguez Zapatero as Spanish prime minister, and we knew in advance that yesterday's session was likely to include some new economic measures. What we got was a mini bombshell. The decision, announced by Zapatero, to change the Spanish constitution to include a budget deficit cap was a well kept secret, or perhaps that should be well kept from the Spanish people. It's going to be an express change, pushed through parliament in a matter of days using the combined might of the PSOE and the Partido Popular.
[...]
The general consensus is that the measure forms part of a secret deal with Angela Merkel and Nicolas Sarkozy, in return for the European Central Bank intervening in the markets on behalf of Spain.
[...]
This is no trivial measure, although it is in many ways a bizarre one. Enshrining deficit limits in the constitution is simply stupid, it's not the place for such a measure and almost more than anything else that has been done so far it represents beautifully the dogmatic, senseless policies that have already taken Europe back to the brink of another recession. The irony is that the lunatic policies of the Tea Party are having more success in Europe so far than they are in the USA. One country after another is being pushed into depression all so that a bought out political class can forget all the promises they made 3 or 4 years ago not to let it happen again. I used to wonder a bit how Europe stumbled into depression and war in the 1930's, the mystery has now been solved for me."

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