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650 mm scale vs Low Tension Strings
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tmock
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RE: 650 mm scale vs Low Tension Strings (in reply to gounaro)
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ORIGINAL: gounaro Any advice someone? Sorry, gounaro. I'm with Anders and Ron on this. Why would low tension strings sit higher? I'm not a luthier, but I can't think of any reason why low tension strings would raise the action on a guitar. In fact, I've only ever heard, and experienced, the opposite effect. Higher tension strings will sometimes raise the action because they exert more force between the bridge and headstock. That extra tension can exaggerate the slight bow ("relief") that is built into most guitar necks. It's like stringing an old-fashioned hunting bow; the more tension you put between the two end points, the more the bow flexes. When you're talking about scale length and string tension, maybe you're talking about an issue of overall string tension? All other things being equal, a shorter scale length will have lower perceived tension than a longer scale length. So maybe some players think the shorter scale length combined with low tension strings results in a playing feel that's too floppy. But that's just a matter of taste. Since 650mm seems to be the most popular scale length, and low-normal tension strings are pretty popular, I have to think that the combination of a 650mm scale and low tension strings works just fine for a lot of players.
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Date May 18 2011 18:39:19
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tmock
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RE: 650 mm scale vs Low Tension Strings (in reply to Ron.M)
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ORIGINAL: Ron.M quote:
I'm with Anders and Ron on this. Oh no....I'm not agreeing on this technical point, like some bloody expert or something.... I just agree that "there's a lot of nonsense out there.." just in general. cheers, Ron Sorry, Ron. Didn't mean to misrepresent your post. quote:
Just read the last paragraph! (It refers about sound and only that, but they recommend that these strings are not for 650mm scale). But in my case the Luthier 20 are higher than D' Addarios EJ45 or Luthier 30. Thats simple! http://www.stringsbymail.com/store/index.php?main_page=page&id=2 quote:
Bill, I think you're right. But maybe i have to do some work to my nut, cause it really has a difference to my guitar. gounaro, I'm not trying to be difficult, but I'm still trying to understand how it's possible that the action on your guitar is higher with lower tension strings. As you say, Strings By Mail's suggestion that light tension strings might not be the best choice for 650mm guitars is based on sound alone. It has nothing to do with height of the action. And I don't see how the slots in your nut could create a higher action for light tension strings, either. If anything, light tension strings should sit deeper in the slots of the nut because light tension strings have a smaller diameter. That would lower your action, not raise it. Have you actually measured of the action, say from the bottom of the strings to the top of the fret at the 12th fret, with light and high tension strings? I'm just wondering if your assesment is based on measurements or on the feel of the action.
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Date May 19 2011 2:59:15
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gounaro
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RE: 650 mm scale vs Low Tension Strings (in reply to tmock)
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gounaro, I'm not trying to be difficult, but I'm still trying to understand how it's possible that the action on your guitar is higher with lower tension strings. As you say, Strings By Mail's suggestion that light tension strings might not be the best choice for 650mm guitars is based on sound alone. It has nothing to do with height of the action. And I don't see how the slots in your nut could create a higher action for light tension strings, either. If anything, light tension strings should sit deeper in the slots of the nut because light tension strings have a smaller diameter. That would lower your action, not raise it. Have you actually measured of the action, say from the bottom of the strings to the top of the fret at the 12th fret, with light and high tension strings? I'm just wondering if your assesment is based on measurements or on the feel of the action. Hello, my friend... I already noticed above that stringsbymail's article is reffering only for sound. About the height, i dont measure the fretboard but i can feel it on action. Anyway, thanks guys for your advices.
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Date May 19 2011 3:08:41
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