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Ramon Amira
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RE: Santos Hernandis (in reply to Siroco03)
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I've never seen a Stradivarius violin for sale on Ebay – has anyone? While in terms of sheer monetary value, a Strad is worth far, far more than a Santos, still, in terms of importance and rarity, a Santos is relatively as valued within the world of flamenco guitars as a Strad is in the world of violins. It's unlikely that anyone who owned a genuine 1922 Santos is going to be selling it on Ebay. Below is a photo of what is purported to be a 1923 Santos. Assuming that it's authentic, the headstock is similar, but on very close examination it's not quite exactly the same. This could be attributed to normal variation, or it could be attributed to an attempt to duplicate the headstock on a fake. I think the photos on Ebay are so good, including the label, that an expert could probably give a definitive opinion without even examining the guitar in person. http://cgi.ebay.com/SANTOS-HERNANDEZ-1922-FLAMENCO-ACOUSTIC-GUITAR-MADRID-/280583993759?pt=Guitar&hash=item41541bf99f http://zavaletas-guitarras.com/static/product/index.cfm?action=view&ProductCode=1923SantosHerna This ad preposterously shows two photos of the headstock, one with pegs and one with rollers, and both with entirely different headstock designs, the one with rollers looking more like a Barbero.
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Date Nov. 7 2010 15:02:30
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mwburnett
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RE: Santos Hernandis (in reply to Siroco03)
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I have inspected this guitar personally, have met its owner Igor, who impressed me a good guy, and incidentally I am the owner of the signed '33 Santos blanca currently listed with Trilogy. I am of the belief that this guitar may be a re-worked guitar of another maker, as (in addition to others' observations already noted) the shape of the heel (pretty much straight down from the neck in side view rather than re-curved; also made of a coarse pine sandwich) and that of the foot (not squared off and beveled, nor stamped) are unlike any Santos I have ever seen in person or archived on-line. Unfortunately I was not prepared to take any measurements at the time I viewed the guitar, so cannot comment there, but will also observe that outside of the sound hole area, where the label and purported maker's stamp are conveniently dirty, the interior of the guitar is otherwise pristine with no apparent discoloration or oxidized surfaces, leading me to believe it was of rather more recent origin. I suggest that the label may have been reproduced from Dan Zeff's '22 blanca (https://www.danzeffguitars.com/showitem.cfm?id=22&menu=flamenco&type=guitars) Draw your own conclusions. I hope this is helpful.
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Date Nov. 13 2010 4:22:07
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