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Andy Culpepper

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New rosette design

Hey all,
I decided to go for a bold look with this rosette, destined for a negra I think. The green is quite electric. Has anybody else noticed how "side grain" (bands) veneer color really pops out more than "end grain" (mosaic, usually)?
Anyhow let me know what you think about it

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 24 2010 21:33:19

Mike_Kinny

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

Beautiful rosette! Did you make it yourself?

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Escribano

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

Lovely, if you make these yourself any chance of some photos of the rosette construction? It'a always fascinated me but I have not seen it documented very well.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 25 2010 10:59:00

orsonw

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

Beautiful.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 25 2010 13:16:36

HemeolaMan

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

I quite like that!

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Andy Culpepper

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

Thanks a lot guys! I did make it myself.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 25 2010 22:18:30

Escribano

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

Thanks, but next time you're going to have to take a photo of every step, with arrows and labels and everything - for our archives

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 25 2010 22:47:48

Pgh_flamenco

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to Escribano)

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Lovely, if you make these yourself any chance of some photos of the rosette construction? It'a always fascinated me but I have not seen it documented very well.

Have you seen this: http://www.connorguitars.com/links_tips/rosettes.html

I think Grisha has one of these Connor guitars...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2010 0:23:22

Andy Culpepper

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to Pgh_flamenco)

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Have you seen this: http://www.connorguitars.com/links_tips/rosettes.html

lol that's EXACTLY how I do it myself. I deleted my whole blah blah blah

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2010 1:10:12

Graham_B

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

I really like the design

Superb workmanship by the way

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2010 5:38:25

krichards

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

I like this too.

Are you producing a unique rosette for each guitar?

Or are you aiming to settle on a favourite and stick with it. Thats the approach I favour, so it becomes part of your 'signature'

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2010 7:53:54

Ailsa

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

That's a great link showing the process. Now that I've seen how it's done I can say with even more conviction:

Brilliant work Andy. I really like the vibrant green.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2010 10:07:48

Escribano

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to Pgh_flamenco)

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Have you seen this: http://www.connorguitars.com/links_tips/rosettes.html

Thanks, I hadn't seen that.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2010 10:27:50

Mike_Kinny

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

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Thanks a lot guys! I did make it myself.

Looking at photos of your guitars I can see your workmanship is very good. Am I right to think you have a woodworking background?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 27 2010 14:50:46

Andy Culpepper

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to krichards)

Thanks krichards. I'm still in an experimenting phase, wanting to try new things on each guitar. We'll see how long that lasts... Some day I may settle on a signature design. Love your rosette btw.

Thanks a lot Ailsa!

Thanks MK. Before guitarmaking I was a carpenter/house painter but never fine stuff like this.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 27 2010 21:07:20

kozz

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

Nice work!
How long does it take to inlay a rosette?

I asume you make the laminations somewhere inbetween when you have to wait for something.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 30 2010 11:46:02

Andy Culpepper

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to kozz)

Thanks kozz,
Yep I do an hour here, an hour there in the downtimes. For something like this about 4-5 hours or so.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 31 2010 0:21:52

kozz

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

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Thanks kozz,
Yep I do an hour here, an hour there in the downtimes. For something like this about 4-5 hours or so.

Wow, thats quite some work/time.

Are the laminated pieces of some fixed size like 1x1x6 cm?
And how do you calculated the tapering?
Any matching capo's for the future?

(ok sorry, to many questions

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 31 2010 5:28:25

Andy Culpepper

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to kozz)

No prob Kozz,
Depending on the size of the tile, my veneer stacks could be like 2 cm wide by 20 cm long, and the height is whatever the height of the tile is.

For the taper you basically figure out your inside and outside circumference of the tile channel, and take the difference between those two. Divide that by how many tiles you will need to fill the circle and that's how much you have to taper each one. I think it was like .7 mm in this case...

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 1 2010 12:53:19

mrMagenta

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

Bold yet stylish and tasteful. Nice choice of colors!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 1 2010 17:55:11

kozz

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

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No prob Kozz,
Depending on the size of the tile, my veneer stacks could be like 2 cm wide by 20 cm long, and the height is whatever the height of the tile is.

For the taper you basically figure out your inside and outside circumference of the tile channel, and take the difference between those two. Divide that by how many tiles you will need to fill the circle and that's how much you have to taper each one. I think it was like .7 mm in this case...

Thanks for the info Deteresa!
Seems like a very fun part to play around with.
Could you make some Space Invader characters? Its kinda funny, but I like that

Do you also make capo's from those vineers? Could bring up some nice figures.

Anyway I like your design. (I was photoshopping the red bindings in some green how it would look like...looks fresh)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 2 2010 12:17:32

Andy Culpepper

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to kozz)

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Could you make some Space Invader characters? Its kinda funny, but I like that

lol yeah, anything pixelated will work great actually. Let me know when you want to order your custom guitar

Might be fun to make a matching capo if somebody wants that ever..

Actually I think the Space Invader capo would be kinda cool even if I'd be a little scared to do it on the actual guitar

Thanks mrM!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 2 2010 12:44:02

kozz

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

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lol yeah, anything pixelated will work great actually. Let me know when you want to order your custom guitar

Who knows! You definetly have no problems selling yours as far as I understand.
You are up to No3 now?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 3 2010 7:42:37

Andy Culpepper

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to kozz)

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You are up to No3 now?

Working on #5

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 3 2010 12:03:10

gshaviv

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

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Yep I do an hour here, an hour there in the downtimes. For something like this about 4-5 hours or so.

4-5 hours? Amazing. I think it would take me 4-5 months...

Very nice work, love it.

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kozz

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

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Working on #5

Wow, you're like a factory in human flesh

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 4 2010 6:51:47

Andy Culpepper

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to kozz)

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Wow, you're like a factory in human flesh

Well my job is really just signing labels, I have a team of trained monkeys to do the actual building.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 4 2010 14:58:55

kozz

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

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Well my job is really just signing labels, I have a team of trained monkeys to do the actual building.

Well, thats a real business man, no guitarrera

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 7 2010 10:23:56

kozz

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

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lol yeah, anything pixelated will work great actually. Let me know when you want to order your custom guitar

Might be fun to make a matching capo if somebody wants that ever..

Actually I think the Space Invader capo would be kinda cool even if I'd be a little scared to do it on the actual guitar

Thanks mrM!

I've tried to make a Space Invaders rosette and it works

Don't mind the colors though...

This was easy in 3dsMax,...but damn, respect for you guys doin it in real life!!!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 9 2010 11:03:47

Andy Culpepper

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RE: New rosette design (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

lol, nice one kozz. That would be an ambitious project as you'd have to make 3 different critter tiles.

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