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HolyEvil

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Strings and your guitars 

Ok guys not to start a thread about what strings is best with which guitars.
Just mention your guitar and which strings you think is best for u..

Mine
Anders eliasson 2A blanca - daddario ej45 normal tension
David macias negra- daddario ej45
Yamaha cg171sf - daddario ej46 hard tensions

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Thomas

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to HolyEvil

1981 Eduardo Ferrer
1993 Rolf Eichinger
1988 Koyla Panhuyzen
All have the same string combi:
D'Addario J45 Bass - Hannabach Goldin Carbon Treble

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ToddK

 

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to HolyEvil

J45 and J46. I go back and forth between these two on all guitars.

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orsonw

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to HolyEvil

Conde Hermanos media luna blanca- luthier 30
Conde Hermanos blanca- la bella 820
Hermanos Sanchis Lopez Rafael cortes model- La bella flamenco 2001 hard tension
Bernal, Sueno- la bella flamenco 2001 hard tension



Try La bella 820 on that Negra I sold you; I thought they suited it and if you like eJ45, I think you might like them. 820 are very different from the 2001, which I know you didn't like.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 14 2010 13:21:39
 
Richard Jernigan

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to HolyEvil

'82 Arcangel Fernandez blanca and '67 Jose Ramirez 1a blanca: Savarez red card
'91 Contreras spruce/Brazilian "doble tapa" D'Addario EJ-45
'73 Romanillos spruce/Indian Savarez New Cristale medium tension
'09 Abel Garcia spruce/Brazilian Savarez New Cristale medium tension
'01 Arturo Huipe cedar/cocobolo Savarez Corum Alliance medium tension

I settled on the Savarez for the Ramirez long ago. I tried Hannabachs on the Arcangel, but had intonation problems.

I went through a pretty long list of choices on the Romanillos. Some were too bright, many of the "carbons" had intonation problems, which might have been cured by compensating the nut and saddle, but I like the New Cristales the best.

The Contreras came with D'Addario EJ-45s, and I like them better than anything else I've tried on it. I haven't done any comprehensive testing on this guitar.

The Garcia is a world class guitar, almost as good as the Romanillos, and it's hardly played in. At present it's a little brighter than the Romanillos with the same strings.

The Huipe is not quite as loud as the other classicals, though it's a nice guitar. The Alliances punch it up a bit.

RNJ
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 14 2010 13:57:23
 
sean65

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to HolyEvil

Bernal Prodigio Esp - Luthier 30's

Tried the D'Addario Pro Art Composites which had a nice even tone across the strings but the Luthiers have a bit more sting in their tail.

Another question to any Luthier users, if I like the tone and feel of the 30's but want higher tension which would be the best option?
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 14 2010 16:54:14
 
Martin

 

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to HolyEvil

Pedro Maldonado blanca , Luthier 30 or sometimes 35 if I feel like a deeper tone

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stratos13

 

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to Richard Jernigan

Sorry, off topic, but which of the guitars do you prefer and why?


quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Jernigan

'82 Arcangel Fernandez blanca and '67 Jose Ramirez 1a blanca: Savarez red card
'91 Contreras spruce/Brazilian "doble tapa" D'Addario EJ-45
'73 Romanillos spruce/Indian Savarez New Cristale medium tension
'09 Abel Garcia spruce/Brazilian Savarez New Cristale medium tension
'01 Arturo Huipe cedar/cocobolo Savarez Corum Alliance medium tension

RNJ
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 14 2010 20:35:49
 
Alonte

 

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to HolyEvil

FN Student Blanca= Daddario EJ45.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 14 2010 23:52:21
 
itoprover

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to HolyEvil

Conde Hermanos A26 650/53 - Luthier 30 basses, Conde 720 trebles
Aaron Green blanca 650/53 - La bella 2001 flamenco basses, D'Addario EJ45 trebles

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KMMI77

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to HolyEvil

I like saverez yellow card hard tension but also use Daddario pro- Arte extra light tension when i can find them.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 15 2010 7:33:38
 
mig

 

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to HolyEvil

Paco Santiago Marin modelo flamenca- EJ45
Mig
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 15 2010 8:34:35
 
Richard Jernigan

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to stratos13

quote:

Sorry, off topic, but which of the guitars do you prefer and why?


quote:

ORIGINAL: Richard Jernigan

'82 Arcangel Fernandez blanca and '67 Jose Ramirez 1a blanca: Savarez red card
'91 Contreras spruce/Brazilian "doble tapa" D'Addario EJ-45
'73 Romanillos spruce/Indian Savarez New Cristale medium tension
'09 Abel Garcia spruce/Brazilian Savarez New Cristale medium tension
'01 Arturo Huipe cedar/cocobolo Savarez Corum Alliance medium tension

RNJ


The Arcangel is my favorite flamenco guitar of all that I have ever played. It is very loud, brilliant, has an aggressive percussion in rasgueados, but still is capable of a lyric, singing tone. It has deep basses with a tone that reminds me of a good cantaor. When I had Richard Bruné appraise it before I bought it, he commented on the very thin top. I have had the guitar for several years, and it shows no deformation.

Having said all that, I still love the Ramirez blanca, the first great guitar I ever owned.

Among the classicals, the Romanillos is my favorite. It has plenty of volume and the widest tonal range of any classical I have played. The Garcia is a close second. It's still new. It is a little brighter than the Romanillos at present, with not quite the tonal range. Garcia has studied with Romanillos, and speaks of him with admiration.

RNJ
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 15 2010 14:50:04
 
stratos13

 

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to Richard Jernigan

[/quote]

The Arcangel is my favorite flamenco guitar of all that I have ever played.
[/quote]

I was sure before you would say!
It seems Arcangel Fernandez Guitars are amazing!
I have played a classical Arcangel, and it was crazy good, and the owner sold it for a ridiculus 16000 euros.

WAY off my budget, so i settled with a 1400euro handmade from an unknown luthier in Seville. This is the best flamenco i have played, but i am sure if i could play a flamenco Arcangel i would change my mind quickly
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XXX

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to HolyEvil

I like Augustine, a bit more separated sound in the basses than with dadadaddario IMO.

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Doitsujin

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to HolyEvil

Good strings are luthier and I actually use a combination of augustine gold and la bella 850B. Very good. Pricing + sound + long-live. And the best about the la bella 850B is, the trebles are almost immediately bright when you tie em on the guitar. They only need some days to become good.

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Ricardo

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to Doitsujin

quote:

And the best about the la bella 850B is, the trebles are almost immediately bright when you tie em on the guitar.


The trebles are exact the same as 820B set. Only the basses are different. I use 820 reds as well on all my guitars except the Sanchis. The sanchis I use Luthier 20. Due to some weird circumstances I have a mix of strings on my Sobrinos de Esteso. The basses and 3rd string are la bella 820. The first string is augustine, and the 2nd is a "jose luis postigo" string, whatever brand that really is.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 16 2010 14:59:18
 
XXX

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to HolyEvil

Question!! Long time ago i bought daddario COMPOSITE basses, they were supposed to be brown because of a different material (as it said on the lable) and sounded like CRAZY. Then i bought another set but this time it was silver??
Did daddario change the production or are there two different composite models?

edit: i checked and found 2 models, normal and polished ones. But i think i tried both and they are not the brown ones.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 17 2010 8:02:41
 
Doitsujin

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to HolyEvil

quote:

The trebles are exact the same as 820B set. Only the basses are different.


Ah, good to know. Because I wasnt so happy with the basses of 850B. I should test the basses of 820B.

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ToddK

 

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to XXX

quote:

But i think i tried both and they are not the brown ones.


No such thing as brown basses from any string maker.

The D'addario composite basses are silver.

The carbon G string by D'addario is brown.

TK

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 17 2010 16:45:48
 
XXX

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to ToddK

Todd i swear, they were brown. The cover in which the strings were stored was also not plastic, like in todays composites, but of paper. They had a warning on that cover which said something like "these strings are not made of nylon, so they have a different color. Dont be surprised about the color it is normal if its brown" etc etc
They looked ugly brown (like old old strings) and left a smell on your fingers, maybe that is the reason they stopped selling it. But i swear they were by far the best bass strings ive heard!

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kovachian

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to HolyEvil

D'addario's brown G string and "composite" basses are not carbon, they're polyketone. It's the same funky plastic that they use in their Zyex violin/viola strings.

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ToddK

 

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to kovachian

quote:

D'addario's brown G string and "composite" basses are not carbon,


Yeah, i know the basses arent. They seem like the same as regular basses to me.

I dont waste my money on the Composite sets.

Somebody gave me a set of the EXP J45's recently which are the "coated" version, like the Elixirs, but they sound pretty much the same as regular, and dont last any longer.

Over the years, ive tried seemingly everything. Labella, Saverez, Luthier, Augustine, Hannanbach, etc, and i always come back to plain old D'addarios which are what i used to start with over 2 decades ago.
TK

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at_leo_87

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to HolyEvil

deniz, it could have been the 80/20 set. those strings are brown, im pretty sure. they also look and sound (imo) like old dead strings.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 17 2010 23:11:11
 
krichards

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to XXX

I've also used the 'brown' strings. Actually I'd describe them as copper coloured.

They certainly did exist, but I think they've been replaced by the silver EJ45C

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XXX

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to krichards

Thx krichards! I have found a post of me where i praise these strings here. It really looks like they discontinued this string. Im gonna write a mail to ask, but im pretty sure it was because people didnt like the looks. They were by far better than the current composites (normal & polished).

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gbv1158

 

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to HolyEvil

on my guitars:
Anders Elliason 1A blanca - Luthier - concert silver- 30;
Stefano Robol ( italian luthier) classical guitar (negra): Augustin Imperials (blue- bass);
J.Ramirez FL 2 : La Bella 2001 ( flam. guit. strings) light tension.

I am not too expert, but i may say thath I found each set very appropriate to the rispective istrument.

Ciao,
Giambattista
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gounaro

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to HolyEvil

ANDERS ELLIASSON 2A BLANCA


Savarez 500 Corum Series Basses

D' Addario G Composite

Hannabach 828 Flamenco (E,B String)
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jul. 18 2010 16:56:33
 
12850bd

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to Ricardo

You said that 820b treble strings are the same as 850b trebles. Strings by mail say that the 850b are higher tension. Would you notice the difference coz it seems a lot.

string 1 820b 15.4 850b 16.06
string 2 820b 11.88 850b 12.32
string 3 820b 12.32 850b 13.64


cheers peter
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Ricardo

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RE: Strings and your guitars (in reply to 12850bd

quote:

ORIGINAL: 12850bd

You said that 820b treble strings are the same as 850b trebles. Strings by mail say that the 850b are higher tension. Would you notice the difference coz it seems a lot.

string 1 820b 15.4 850b 16.06
string 2 820b 11.88 850b 12.32
string 3 820b 12.32 850b 13.64


cheers peter


From what I remember (2004 or so 20 years ago lol) the 850 set had gold basses and black nylon trebles. I don’t remember feeling any difference in the trebles compared to 820b, however things could have changed since then. Honestly those numbers are not showing crazy spreads of tension, and remember what kitarist posted some time ago that showed when strings get tuned up to standard pitch, certain discrepancies balance out.

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