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NormanKliman
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RE: Wider horizons (in reply to a_arnold)
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1. Look more closely at anything by Ramón Montoya (and what Sabicas and Ricardo did with those ideas). Lots to learn there regardless of your experience. 2. Look more closely at the first recordings of Paco de Lucía (La fabulosa guitarra de PdL) and Manolo Sanlúcar (Recital flamenco). 3. Juan Maya "Marote," the Habichuelas, Enrique de Melchor... up to Paco's generation and selectively thereafter. For less of a virtuoso approach, Manolo Domínguez, Fernando Moreno, Pascual de Lorca and of course Cepero, Parrilla, etc. 4. Cante recordings, regardless of the guitarist's age or career. Most guitarists play differently when there's a singer. For example, after Manolo Sanlúcar's first album, his solo recordings don't really do much for me, but he continued accompanying very well through the 1970s with singers like Manuel Agujetas. Also, accompaniment for cantiñas (alegrías, cantiñas, caracoles, mirabrás, romeras) has developed a lot in the last 20 years. It also depends on the style, because not every guitarist will play every style to your liking. In the styles that Camarón sang, Tomate's accompaniment is outstanding, especially in their early recordings.
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Date Apr. 29 2010 9:40:38
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a_arnold
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RE: Wider horizons (in reply to NormanKliman)
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quote:
1. Look more closely at anything by Ramón Montoya (and what Sabicas and Ricardo did with those ideas). Lots to learn there regardless of your experience. Yes. My teacher (Carlos Ramos) was a contemporary of Sabicas, and (like Sabicas) a student of Ramon Montoya. That is where I am starting from. quote:
2. Look more closely at the first recordings of Paco de Lucía (La fabulosa guitarra de PdL) and Manolo Sanlúcar (Recital flamenco). For the more modern players I tend to listen to their accompaniment rather than their solo work -- they seem to revert (somewhat) to their roots. quote:
3. Juan Maya "Marote," the Habichuelas, Enrique de Melchor... up to Paco's generation and selectively thereafter. For less of a virtuoso approach, Manolo Domínguez, Fernando Moreno, Pascual de Lorca and of course Cepero, Parrilla, etc. Those sound like good suggestions. I'll get a few albums. quote:
4. Cante recordings, regardless of the guitarist's age or career. Most guitarists play differently when there's a singer. For example, after Manolo Sanlúcar's first album, his solo recordings don't really do much for me, but he continued accompanying very well through the 1970s with singers like Manuel Agujetas. Also, accompaniment for cantiñas (alegrías, cantiñas, caracoles, mirabrás, romeras) has developed a lot in the last 20 years. I'm not fond of Sanlucar's recent solo stuff, so I have tended not to buy him, even when accompanying. . . Obviously I should have been more openminded about his accompaniment. quote:
It also depends on the style, because not every guitarist will play every style to your liking. In the styles that Camarón sang, Tomate's accompaniment is outstanding, especially in their early recordings. I can probably find some of that on youtube. Thanks, Norman. That is useful.
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