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Skai
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RE: Right hand fingerings (in reply to Skai)
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Thanks again.. I can play arpeggios with free strokes easily, a skill left from my classical guitar training. However, you sometimes want the notes in the arpeggio to ring so in that case, do you still use rest strokes? As for Recuerdos, I play it all with free strokes. But if you use the flamenco tremolo on that piece, you won't need to go as fast and the piece can move slower. I find that recordings of the piece would sound better if played slower as such a piece doesn't sound right when played too fast. And one more question, I heard that picado should be powered mainly from the midle joint and not the knuckles. But observing the videos of the weird Russian guy posted on this site previously, he seems to use his knuckles too. Is this incorrect? I also heard that as long as you get the sound you want, it's fine. I can't really hear the difference between the 2 and I find that I can go much faster using knuckles. If I practise using knuckle strokes and stiffen my joints and staccato my notes, would it work as well..? Thanks alot once again, Skai
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Date Nov. 12 2004 5:50:20
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Escribano
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RE: Right hand fingerings (in reply to Miguel de Maria)
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Don't you perceive sometimes the bass is merely an arpeggio accompaniment The other way around. IMHO the thumb is never merely. Especially in tremelo. The thumb is the anchor, the essence. If one is learning flamenco, one must start with the thumb. At the moment, I am listening to Camerón and Tomatito. All p, i, rasgueos, and golpe. Few arpeggios or picado. That is accompanying of course, but that is flamenco. Let's face it, flamenco guitar is rhythm guitar, not lead guitar. For me, the thumb is the flamenco melody within that rhythm. Arpeggios are not the tune (the canteor sets the tune), perhaps I could be emplored to make an exception for picado in the case of solo guitar, but solo guitar is not flamenco entera. For me, the guitar is musical percussion for the canteor. At worst it can be a distraction, like letting a sax player into your band I am open to being convinced otherwise.
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Date Nov. 14 2004 20:45:18
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Skai
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RE: Right hand fingerings (in reply to Skai)
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So I'd assume that the emphasis of tremolo in flamenco is different from classical then? Looking at classical pieces like Recuerdos, sometimes the tremolo accompanies a bass melody and at times, the bass notes form an arpeggio while the tremolo sings. I find that the effect their trying to create is to shift between bass melodies and treble melodies from time to time, creating a beautiful shift between the 2.. I noticed that even in Paco Pena's Essential Flamenco Recordings, where he plays Nino Ricardo's Zambra. At times I find that the bass carries the melody, while at other times, the melody in the tremolo is so distinct and the bass notes seem to be an acompanyment. The philosophy of 'the bass is the falseta' might apply to maybe accompaniment but in solo guitar, I feel that this rule could be sometimes overlooked for the effect.. Even for the rest of the piece, the bass appears to be plaing a repeated arpeggio throughout the whole piece while the trebles are so obviously holding the melody. Does the 'pulgar is everything' rule still apply here? I know that the thumb should always play rest strokes to make it stand out but in this case, the melody in the treble can't be avoided in my opinion.. Personally, when I talk about melody, I consider it as something that can stand on it's own. For example, if you remove the tremolo, the bass notes should form some melody. And if you can remove the bass notes without sacrificing the main melody, then I'd consider that the melody is in the other 3 fingers in this situation.. Skai
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Date Nov. 15 2004 3:41:18
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