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RE: need help with more cante stuff!
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Ricardo
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 RE: need help with more cante stuff! (in reply to orsonw)
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Generally speaking when you add an extra 6 do you then carry on as normal and forget about it or does it have to be compensated for later?
Or just not think in 12 at all and only think of 6s?
In this example we have the advantage that we know what's coming next, in real life I presume you listen carefully to the singer to predict this extra 6? Is this a typical use of it or can they come in more unexpected places?
When YOU the guitar does it, no need to compensate, carry on as normal. BUT, if the singer does not do the 6 with you (poveda did not in the example) then you actually do compensate in a weird way, cuz it feels like the singer comes in the middle, when he repeats the 2nd and 3rd line of letra. I did not count this example but my guess is that is what happens. Safest to never think of 12's anyway for buleria and you never get lost. That is the problem with practicing buleria with loops of 12 or compas clock or metronome...you get stuck in the 12 phrasing always.
In this case you just rematar for the singer in 6, YOU are doing it, it is not a prediction. But on the repeat (second line of cante) you have to follow the singer on the C7-F, so there you may be forced to cut the compas in half. Also, some singers will stretch out that second line, so don't go for the F until you hear it resolve. (Paquera would stretch that out not just a half compas, but as long as she wanted!).
And a singer can do that in the first line of cante too, go to dm or E7 on what feels like count 4 so you have to hit it on 6, but feel it as a new 12 (if you must.) But the ending, the 3rd line, it is more up to your choice, your preference of how to end it. End in 6 or fill it up with extra rasgueado to make a square 12.
Hope that helps.
Ricardo
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..just a litlle longher..i love this song 