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cathulu
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Joined: Dec. 15 2006
From: Vancouver, Canukistan
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OK, so the big guns have the composition thing to play with, I think we need a new beginners challenge to keep moving us beginners forward.
I really liked Ron's bulerias falseta in the missionary position, I think that would make good challenge material. Here is the link. http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=116695&p=1&tmode=1&smode=1
So that we don't overlap with the composition challenge, we should close ours around Jan 31.
Yes, it is a little more than 3 months away, but that will give lots of time and prevent any challenge fatigue from overwhelming judges etc, with the potential danger of a bit a lethargy until the final few weeks. Especially with the upcoming holiday season, I think we will need all the time we can get!
So, is there anymore interest in something like this? We can sort out the rules etc if there is sufficient interest. Suffice to say you will have to perform against a compas track.
Anyone? I will be willing to organize this one.
Any thoughts much appreciated. Perhaps there is too much happening. However, I think we beginners are the ones that need all the help and motivation we can get.
Cheers Everyone.
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Date Oct. 11 2009 18:49:59
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Ailsa
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Joined: Apr. 17 2007
From: South East England
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RE: New Beginners Challenge? (in reply to Gummy)
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don't want to make anyone mad here but I really don't think anything would be needed to be added to the Missionary piece. As it its, it would be a hell of a challenge for a beginner. Are you really beginners?
Why would you make anyone mad Gummy?! That was a pretty mild-mannered post!
I guess most of us regulars in the beginners' challenges are not real beginners, as in the first year of playing. But are not yet ready to try anything as complex as the intermediate challenge, that's where I am anyway.
And 2 minutes recording without a mistake is pretty difficult for me! There's nearly always some sort of fumble-fingers bit  I played a couple of pieces at the Pena in London last night. The Tarantas is about 5 minutes and had a few slips, though as it was Tarantas I could pretend they were intentional  The Bulerias is about 3 minutes and there was one blip in that too!! Still, it was my first time of playing to an audience of about 100 people, so I forgave myself  Also the good thing about a live performance is that when it's gone, it's gone, so you just have to live with what ever happened. With a recording on the other hand, you can do it again. And again. And again and again. Searching for that perfection which I will never reach before the deadline, if ever!!
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Date Oct. 12 2009 13:56:22
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Ron.M
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From: Scotland
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RE: New Beginners Challenge? (in reply to Gummy)
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Hi Folks,
If you really want to use that falseta, personally I would begin with a few compas cycles of basic Jerez style strumming since the falseta is already a sort of "intro" anyway.
(Listen to Orson's version and also Henrik's Jerezana opening chords.)
Everybody could just choose their own strumming pattern intro, which would add more interest to the challenge, since you would have to do a bit of research and listening.
Oh...best way to pick it up is to practise the slow version as solidly and carefully as you can. Keep practising at this speed and tapping your foot, so the rhythm of the falseta really sinks in.
After that it is fairly easy to speed it up to anything you want.
(Oh..you could maybe use "Flamenco Master" at first, just to confirm to yourself which beats the salient notes are landing on if you are unsure.)
The F# note on the low E string is on the 12 beat.
That's the important one and the one you should be aiming at.
The first few notes are just "lead in" ones.
I actually play it a bit too fast, but that's because I was really getting annoyed with the recording program keeping freezing up and I just wanted to get it over with before it decided to hang up again  ....it would probably sound better played a bit slower IMO.
Personally, I wouldn't over complicate the challenge by adding more falsetas, since the whole point of the exercise is to become more confident about Bulerias rhythm and feeling how a falseta fits in to the compás.
For learning, simple is always better. You learn much more IMO.
cheers,
Ron
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Date Oct. 13 2009 6:34:56
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cathulu
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Joined: Dec. 15 2006
From: Vancouver, Canukistan
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RE: New Beginners Challenge? (in reply to Ron.M)
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OK, Ron, I agree with you. Also, it is better to have things contained in one video rather than a couple of multiple sources.
Kozz, if you want to help and you said you wanted to, you can be the guy that receives and uploads the contestants audio and the judges scores. How does that sound? It would be good that a non-participant handles this stuff.
As GJ said recently, judges scores should be held back and released all together so no one is influenced. Also, right now I don't think we should rush finding judges, we should wait for the New Year so people can confirm they can do it, and so the recent judging fiasco is well behind us :^)
at_leo_87, if you want to prepare the tablature, and you are up to it, then please do! If you can't be bothered no worries either.
I will post an official thread with rules etc in a day or so.
So far we have confirmed participants in order of appearance
Cathulu
Minordjango
Louis_B
Ailsa
Gummy
Robbie
More are welcome of course! I will send reminders to past participants also.
Cheers everyone
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Date Oct. 13 2009 18:39:04
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