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M.S.A.

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Bending machine

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Aadi

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RE: Bending machine (in reply to M.S.A.)

Bending machines are very simple devices. If you want to buy one, your destiny awaits at LMI. They'll even sell you plans and raw materials. But no serious engineering skill is required to build one from scratch, and if you're dedicated and a little clever, you can reverse engineer one from a few pictures. Construction tutorials are also available for free on the web. You don't even have to buy the heating blanket LMI recommends (though it is nice)--some people use 100 watt light bulbs and foil to provide heat.

As for other things a beginning luthier needs, there's an awful lot, but the most important thing is information, so get Bogdanovich's book and Cumpiano/Natelson's. These books will provide you with enough details to figure out which tools you need. Cumpiano/Natelson are more low-tech (cheaper) than Bogdanovich, but I like the latter's design more. Neither book covers the flamenco guitar so you'll need another source of information on that, like a plan from GAL.

I've found luthiery to be expensive, unrelentingly challenging, and satisfying. Good luck.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 2 2009 10:31:01

Stephen Eden

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RE: Bending machine (in reply to M.S.A.)

a bending iron is fine though and you'll find that you will more than likely to have to use it any way even with a machine.

There are many threads here that have other usefull tols for building guitars though. if you cant find one though have one saved i think

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jshelton5040

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RE: Bending machine (in reply to M.S.A.)

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can anyone suggest some resource where can I find construction plans for bending machine [not bending iron]. Or anything useful regarding the luthiery for someone who is planning to start building guitars?

I've been building guitars since the 1960's and never felt the need for side bending machine. My home made bending iron with a propane torch has served me well for almost 50 years. You want to be a guitar maker why not learn to do it the traditional way?

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jshelton5040

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RE: Bending machine (in reply to M.S.A.)

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you are right, luthiery is very satisfying and challenging. it's something very different from simple woodworking, I see some connection with art. good guitar is an incredible work of art... as a process of building I find it very peaceful activity in which people like me can find certain kind of self-realisation. I am obsessed by it, to be honest.

You're correct that guitar making is satisfying and challenging although I prefer fascinating as a description. I don't know what you mean by "simple woodworking" but the actual construction/assembly of a guitar is no more sophisticated than any other form of bench carpentry. The tricky part is building a consistently well crafted guitar with a powerful voice and perfect action.

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jshelton5040

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can you tell about your subjective reasons and feelings back then at the beginning of your carreer? I mean, it must have been a very idealistic and motivating conditioning...

I was a flamenco guitarist and woodworker long before building the first guitar. Arthritis in the fingers has put an end to playing guitar so I'm studying classical piano (deeply involved with J. Haydn and Mozart sonatas at present

). Building guitars is endlessly fascinating. Unfortunately it has taken most of my life to learn how to build a good one.

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Stephen Eden

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RE: Bending machine (in reply to M.S.A.)

Well having the passion is just the start! There are so many ways to get into building guitars. Many different methods of contstruction and once your there and building you then have to consider then endless possibilities for getting the desired tone from your guitars.

I started with Stephen Hill but only for about 4 months the rest was down to Pablo Requena for my in depth training. I have worked for stephen since then helping out with construction and teaching on his course. There is a small community of guitar makers here in Lewes so getting an opinion from others is very easy. If there was ever a problem I've always had the input from many others. I think that has been very important.

for me the well known makers were making great guitars but most importantly were in the right place at the right time!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 4 2009 14:47:13

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RE: Bending machine (in reply to M.S.A.)

I know that a local (to me) luthier has a "build your own guitar" program. He guides you through the process in his shop, but you do the work.

If you can find someone locally who does something similar, it might be worth it to have the supervision and access to the tools. If your first project comes out better than a bastard, you're more likely to really get into it. I think...

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jshelton5040

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RE: Bending machine (in reply to M.S.A.)

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what I'm really concerned about is the humidity level. not sure if it's not too high, even in case the workshop would have some nice and propper insulation. what about in Canada in Vancouver? it's quite high as well. does it create some problems for a builder?

High humidity makes building guitars a risky endeavor. It is also hard on your tools (rust, corrosion, warping or cracking of wooden tools, etc.). The assembly and storage area of your shop should ideally be kept around 45% and around 65-70 degrees fahrenheit. If your shop is well built and not too large a small dehumidier can be added for minimal expense. Low humidity shouldn't be a concern in any of the locations you mentioned.

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Exitao

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RE: Bending machine (in reply to M.S.A.)

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once I'll make my first guitar, it will have to be better than **** as you mention, cause I LOVE GUITARS SOOO MUCH... I feel it in my bones all is gonna work well and I KNOW this is what I'll be doing for the rest of my life. what I don't know up to what extent... my temporary aim is to satisfy myself and my requirements for sound production.

thank you so much for your comment Exitao!

LOL, I don't think our bleeped out words are the same. Mine was meant to mean the son of an unwed mother.

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