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Ailsa

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Help reading tabs please!

This is from the Beginners Solea Challenge. What does the arrow with double lines means? Can anyone explain the right hand for this section to me? If not I'm stuffed as it crops up several times!

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edguerin

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RE: Help reading tabs please! (in reply to Ailsa)

In general that means am or ami (although for this type of rasgueo you can use a or m alone)

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Pimientito

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RE: Help reading tabs please! (in reply to Ailsa)

Ailsa. Please empty your inbox. Its full and I cant send you a message.

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Ailsa

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RE: Help reading tabs please! (in reply to Pimientito)

Sigh I've done it. Emptied all those memories of connections and flirtations across the ether.

No actually they were mostly dull as ditchwater trivia!

OK Pim, PM me.

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Ailsa

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RE: Help reading tabs please! (in reply to val)

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ORIGINAL: val

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OK Pim, PM me

Why? I want to know as well!

I suspect he's going to give me some not very good feedback on my playing in the last challenge and wants to spare me from everyone knowing me faults

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gj Michelob

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RE: Help reading tabs please! (in reply to val)

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Fag and coffee break then back to work.

Just yesterday, Ron and I dealt with a little misunderstanding which certain choice of words inadvertently can cause (but have quickly and most amicably settled the score).
However, this incident occasioned the ever entertaining review of a few words which, in British or US English, carry discrete meanings or subtle disconnected nuances, enough to make us as awkward as Mr. Bean ordering from a French menu.

Your British expression “Fag” is above all others, definitely a remarkable example of linguistic incongruence “so totally un-PC” [read it with that California surfing dude nearly stoned intonation].

On this side of the Ocean, we have continued calling a cigarette a “smoke” since Humphrey Bogart, but in the current hip-pop parlance it is now a “Stog” or “Stoggie”. As you certainly know, on the other hand, Fag is the derogatory epithet offensively used to describe or insult a gay man.

(of course, there is also that legendary moment of hilarity when the new British kid asks his high school mates “does anyone have rubber?” (he meant “eraser”…)

Which UK prime minister (it cannot be always my adored Churchill) said “American and British are people separated by the same language” ?

btw... am doing exactly that atm -a few stoggies and a cup of hot joe (?)-

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at_leo_87

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RE: Help reading tabs please! (in reply to Ailsa)

ailsa,
the double lines means to use your M and A fingers or A,M,I fingers all together for a strong downstroke. put this with a pulgar downstroke then upstroke and you get a triplet abanico rasgueado.

it's the same thing as any other abanico. gerhard just teaches to use i,m,a fingers together for a stronger, fatter downstroke.

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cathulu

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RE: Help reading tabs please! (in reply to gj Michelob)

Yah, language is funny the way it evolves. I can't even say I am feeling gay anymore!

Regarding the rasgueo, I definetly don't like the sound of this one. I much prefer a crisp amii amii ii

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at_leo_87

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RE: Help reading tabs please! (in reply to cathulu)

does anybody here watch the office (american version)? there's a funny episode where michael, the insensitive, idiot boss, walks around and uses the word "f@g" excessively without thinking of the consequences or even knowing what the word really means.

then an actual gay guy (no one knows he's gay yet) confronts him. michael decides to hold a spontaneous conference and tries to kiss the gay guy to prove to everyone that gay is okay. he indirectly forced the gay guy "out of the closet" and in the most embarrassing, demeaning way.

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gj Michelob

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RE: Help reading tabs please! (in reply to val)

I was not scolding you Val and I hope you did not read any righteous reproach in my post. Not at all. I am familiar with the expression “fag” as it is used over there, and you should continue using it as it pleases you. I will carry on saying stoggie even if in Australia meant Marijuana.....

I was highlighting the coincidence of the discussion taking place on another thread on certain expressions and different usages. Your post served a classic example. But no offense taken, and in fact please accept my apology if I have given you that stiff impression.

Take it easy
[here it reads "cheers" "ciao" "hasta la vista"]

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val

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srshea

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RE: Help reading tabs please! (in reply to val)

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I'm already stuffed on the first bar. I just CAN'T do golpes and keep any musicality flowing. Tips greatly appreciated.

Val,

Do you not feel comfortable with golpes with simultaneous thumb/index downstrokes overall, or is that you feel that you have the basic technique down but just can't work it into actual playing properly? If it's the former, then just getting the basic mechanics down away from the guitar might be helpful. I spent a lot of time just doing those basic movements in idle moments (the mouse pad at work has probably been on the receiving end of more golpes than my guitar has!), and that was really helpful towards programing the muscle memory to perform what was initially a very awkward movement.

Also, I find that with thumb down strokes doing the golpe with MA rather than just A alone feels a lot more natural and is easier to perform, for me at least....

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edguerin

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RE: Help reading tabs please! (in reply to Ailsa)

Don't know if this is a sort of "over-kill" (i. e. you allready have mastered the basic movements), but maybe this'll help:

scissor-like movement of i and a

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edguerin

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RE: Help reading tabs please! (in reply to Ailsa)

dto. for pulgar.

Otherwise go with srshea

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edguerin

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RE: Help reading tabs please! (in reply to Ailsa)

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I THINK it's the recovery AFTER the golpe that's the problem

You don't really have to DO anything after the golpe (or even THINK about it):
just relax, and the fingers go back to the starting position.

I used to do my golpes way to hard (braking inumerable fingernails in the process), all you really need is a sort of "springy" "snap" (???)

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