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RE: Check this out - Tomatito's guit... (in reply to rogeliocan)
That's really cool. I wonder though why the signature is not seemingly of faustino conde but seems like it's his wife's like on all the condes after faustino's passing from gravina shop. I wonder what makes tomato sell his baby.
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RE: Check this out - Tomatito's guit... (in reply to rogeliocan)
For $6000 I would get it. It's not worth more except if you want that tomatito connection. In that case it is worth what ever someone will pay for it. I bet it is a good guitar too, it sounds pretty good.
By the way, the video at the bottom of the page shows tomatito playing for camaron. THat is NOT the same guitar though they seem to imply it is. FIrst I think the video might be before 87, but if it is after, just take a look at the 19th fret. Not the same guitar though the same rosette and perhaps make.
RE: Check this out - Tomatito's guit... (in reply to Ricardo)
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By the way, the video at the bottom of the page shows tomatito playing for camaron. THat is NOT the same guitar though they seem to imply it is. FIrst I think the video might be before 87, but if it is after, just take a look at the 19th fret. Not the same guitar though the same rosette and perhaps make.
Ricardo
that would explain him selling it... I suppose even he doesn't need two of the same guitars.
BTW if is true that good playing makes guitar sound better then this one is the bomb.
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RE: Check this out - Tomatito's guit... (in reply to rogeliocan)
Hey, that's cool! I would be somewhat surprised if he sold a guitar that he used to accompany Camaron, but that's just me. I would suspect he has a lot of guitars.
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RE: Check this out - Tomatito's guit... (in reply to el carbonero)
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ORIGINAL: el carbonero
for me it's not the same varnish in the camaron video,lacado in the video and gomalaca in the website
One only need look at the 19th fret to see they are not the same guitar. Perhaps made around the same time who knows? I wonder if it is really tomatito's guitar or it's just because he signed the back? They say the golpeador is original but that's a lie...you can see the damage under before it was obviously changed. Anyway looks like a good guitar and sounds good in the first video.
Incidentally...for conde nuts...chicuelo's guitar sold there looks like it is no longer available. It is 100% identical to all the conde's from Felipe V I have seen or played and even owned. But....the address is ATOCHA. THat pretty much is proof right there that both addresses contracted out to the exact same source.
RE: Check this out - Tomatito's guit... (in reply to rogeliocan)
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It is 100% identical to all the conde's from Felipe V I have seen or played and even owned. But....the address is ATOCHA. Ricardo
99.9% perhaps. The A26 models with the Felipe V label have no contrasting veneers under the head plate (unlike the the A25 and A25R which do). I think that the Atocha picture shows the extra contrasting layers in the curved head ramp.
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I wonder though why the signature is not seemingly of faustino conde but seems like it's his wife's like on all the condes after faustino's passing from gravina shop. tele
Julia Conde was signing guitars at the Gravina shop by 1986 – a couple of years before Faustino died.
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RE: Check this out - Tomatito's guit... (in reply to RobJe)
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99.9% perhaps. The A26 models with the Felipe V label have no contrasting veneers under the head plate (unlike the the A25 and A25R which do). I think that the Atocha picture shows the extra contrasting layers in the curved head ramp.
well, overall kind of a minor detail, considering. Also, the scale length is different. 660 I always found on Sanchis and hermanos sanchis lopez, but the condes felipe V I always found bigger 664, or smaller 651. I guess I could tell by the neck feel but the sound is pretty much the same as other A26 from that era IMO.
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