Kate -> RE: Zambra (May 3 2004 16:22:40)
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Cartas Marruecas: documentos de Marruecos en archivos espanoles ( Siglos XVl - XVll) Not that I've actually read it of course. While doing a google search to see if I could find anything else along these lines I came across this, fascinating stuff. "Spain Chinese Records/ Claims • The Chinese had traded with Europe since the Song Dynasty. In Zhu Fan Zhi (Description of various barbarians) by Zhao Ru Kua (1170 - 1228 A.D.) there is a chapter about “Mulanpi Kingdom”, identified by Rockhill as the Al Murabitum kingdom of Spain. In Ming Shi (History of Ming Dynasty) in the 'Foreign Countries chapter it says "... Year 6 (1408) Zheng He went to Hormuz (Persian Gulf) and other foreign countries, returned home in year 8 (1410). The countries visited but which did not return tribute are listed as an appendix..." This appendix lists "Mayidong, Kalimanjan, Misr (Cairo) , Mulanpi, Kilin, Sunha...” There are vivid descriptions of the Chinese junks leaving Damietta (Nile Delta) and setting sail west across the Mediterranean for Spain. We believe Mulanpi to be Granada. " In the same report it shows that the Gypsies of Granada have Chinese DNA. Likewise the Gypsies have long been traded as slaves and mercenaries and the following shows they were taken to the Middle East long before the Moors arrived in Spain. "1001-1026. Sindh and the Panjab in India are invaded some seventeen times by a mixed army of Turko-Persian Ghaznivid troops led by King Mahmud from Ghazni (present-day eastern Iran). Indian resistance, in the form of the Rajput warriors, is fierce, but King Mahmud is victorious and takes half a million slaves." "The role of Gypsies in the military forces of early Islamic sultanates is almost entirely unacknowledged in Romani Studies, but their presence as Sindhi and Rajput warriors in the armies of Mahmud of Ghazni is attested to by al-Utbi and other Arabic historians of the period (EI2, 1986), whilst other sources suggest that they may have been a consistent component of these forces throughout." Although it assumed that Ferdinand and Isobel brought the Gypsies to Andalucia, it is equally probable they came with the Moors. In Maghrebi Arabic (Morocco), "zambra" means party Kate
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