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duende121 -> Flamenco teacher on your tube? (Dec. 24 2006 9:20:02)

Have a look there.

Well, everybody is free to teach anything, even what he doesn t know..But the drama is that he find people who enjoy that...
This guy seems so sure of himself and he knows nothing and plays awfully...
Maybe he is a nice guy but I hope he do not influence so strongly others guys who want to learn flamenco and no horseshit which is less flamenco that **** as we know




sonikete -> RE: Flamenco teacher on your tube? (Dec. 24 2006 10:37:23)

This is what i mean with a lack of respect for the culture, a lot of people seem to feel they have a right to redefine a culture after learning a scale mode. [:@]

Here is a compas lesson from ottmar;

http://www.ottmarliebert.com/diary/?p=855

"of course…. but that would not be cool!"
[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]




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Florian -> RE: Flamenco teacher on your tube? (Dec. 24 2006 14:07:41)

re:Sonkiete

HAHAHAHAHAHA he IS ! arrogant





ops [8|] I am not here




Ron.M -> RE: Flamenco teacher on your tube? (Dec. 24 2006 14:14:09)

That really is awful....really dreadful...
The guy seems very pleased with himself though and very confident.
(What about, I don't quite know.)
Judging by the replies he got, it seems he has "helped" a lot of folk.

cheers

Ron




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Florian -> RE: Flamenco teacher on your tube? (Dec. 24 2006 14:41:11)

LOL, I love it[:D]


I am talking about otmar advicing on bulerias.

seen the other guy before, its a shame he dosent know what flamenco is cause hes good at explaining, i gues.




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Florian -> RE: Flamenco teacher on your tube? (Dec. 24 2006 14:58:17)

I was just agreeing with you [:)] judging form his replies, i did detect un inky binky tiny bit of arrogance [:)] but i need others to duble check cause i am not certain.




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Florian -> RE: Flamenco teacher on your tube? (Dec. 24 2006 15:05:01)

HMMM yes me too i think [8|] just cant place my finger on it??

but in all fairnes to him i like how he takes the time to tell people the date, my teachers never did that.

quote:

# Ottmar Says:
December 1st, 2004 at




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JasonM -> RE: Flamenco teacher on your tube? (Dec. 24 2006 17:03:55)

Man That Video had over 13K hits, and was favorited over 200 times. Thats pretty good for a Flamenco video on you tube. And its Crap!




Francisco -> RE: Flamenco teacher on your tube? (Dec. 24 2006 17:09:36)

Wow, that's 10 minutes I'll never get back. I'm not a music major, and consider myself weak when it comes to music theory, but what he calls a modified A scale I learned as the first position (Ionian?) of the C major scale? Also like the way he explains rasgeado..."gotta get the right hand working, like this...."[8|]




Jim Opfer -> RE: Flamenco teacher on your tube? (Dec. 24 2006 20:04:28)

It's dross! That's the stuff left behing at the bottom of the bucket when all the coal goes on the fire.




sonikete -> RE: Flamenco teacher on your tube? (Dec. 24 2006 20:11:52)

quote:

Are you trying to **** me off sonikete??


Ha ha ha! Apparently paco met ottmar at an airport in miami, and ..well you better read it
yourself

[:D][:D][:D]


Hi Flo! Nice to have you back!




Florian -> RE: Flamenco teacher on your tube? (Dec. 24 2006 20:23:08)

lol, everyone always makes such big fuss about explaining rasqueado , i like the way he does it, took him 15 minutes to explain a simple scale and 2 secs to explain rasqueados lol, " U might wanna do something like this to get that effect" lol




Conrad -> RE: Flamenco teacher on your tube? (Dec. 24 2006 20:24:13)

Damn, I can't understand it. Can someone translate pretty please?

-Con




sonikete -> RE: Flamenco teacher on your tube? (Dec. 24 2006 20:34:33)

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Damn, I can't understand it. Can someone translate pretty please?


The whole thing?[:o] Its christmas... Another day, ok?




Conrad -> RE: Flamenco teacher on your tube? (Dec. 24 2006 20:41:01)

no worries, I hope someone will sometime,

I tried to translate bits, but I don't want to get what looks like an intriguing story all wrong. Happy Winter.

-Con




Florian -> RE: Flamenco teacher on your tube? (Dec. 24 2006 20:48:22)

Just found a book from the guy on youtube on the net.Link




fevictor -> RE: Flamenco teacher on your tube? (Dec. 24 2006 20:54:39)

Basically a guy that plays in cancun who knows Paco tells what happened when Ottmar introduced himself to pdl in miami:

Basically ottmar said "Hi paco, do you know who I am? PDL said "No I don't". Ottmar said "I'm Ottmar Liebert". Paco said "Oh, yoooour Ottmar Liebert, your a shameless person." And Ottmar walked away.

Thats basically it!




Florian -> RE: Flamenco teacher on your tube? (Dec. 24 2006 21:00:40)

fevictor is this a true story ?




Conrad -> RE: Flamenco teacher on your tube? (Dec. 24 2006 21:06:57)

Haha, that's funny, but kinda sad, too, although by strict definition, Paco may have been right to have said that. Thanks for translating, Victor! [:)] Now I know how the king feels.

best,

Conrad




Florian -> RE: Flamenco teacher on your tube? (Dec. 24 2006 21:10:18)

oh sorry fevictor, i missed the link before, tought u were telling the story




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Francisco -> RE: Flamenco teacher on your tube? (Dec. 24 2006 21:20:11)

Florian....
Now, that's funny!
[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]



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Florian -> RE: Flamenco teacher on your tube? (Dec. 24 2006 21:21:02)

wow another good book



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Conrad -> RE: Flamenco teacher on your tube? (Dec. 24 2006 21:29:48)

Surely the commotion has only to do with Ottmar's theft of the word Flamenco (not to mention the word "New" as if new and improved, haha) and the way he "shamelessly" markets his music as such. Hopefully that's the sole issue at hand as far as Paco, Chuscales and anyone else is concerned. Anyway, we've been here before.




sonikete -> RE: Flamenco teacher on your tube? (Dec. 24 2006 21:38:02)

Its pretty funny but it would take a while for me to translate cause my spanish is a bit rusty and i wanted to get the swearwords and colorful language as well.

quote:

..un tio con el pelo largo con cara de no haber cagao ni comido en un año y me extiende la mano para darmela, y le dice, hola Paco no me conoces?


..a guy with long hair who looked like he hadnt taken or **** or eaten for a year extended his hand to shake mine and he said, paco dont you recognize me?

There is more..

[:D][:D][:D][:D]




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