Ricardo -> RE: Flamenco Puro (Jun. 28 2013 14:31:18)
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The reason the Gypsy Kings and others are not considered flamenco is because they do not play any of the palos found in flamenco. Flamenco artists have, in the past, incorporated popular music from South America into their repertoire to attract the masses, but these styles were not original to Spain. These are known as toques de ida y vuelta (guitar styles from trips taken). These styles include Rumbas, Guajiras and Colombianas. When bands like Otmar Liebert and Gypsy Kings play mostly Rumbas they are actually playing Cuban music on guitar and not flamenco. Even though this a necropost and this topic has been refined in terms of discussions over the last 7 years or so, I can't help but point out some bad generalizations here. First, G Kings do perform tangos, bulerias, fandangos, and even a granaina por rumba in their sets in the past. They consider themselves flamencos, even is most others dont'. There is nothing "cuban" about their music at all other than the conga player, who is colombian anyway. The Rumba clave of latin music is very different than the Rumba guitar compas. Ottmar....he doesn't even know how to strum rumba, and probably doesn't know any latin claves. About Paco being Payo accepted by gitanos...again over generaliztion and to imply he was the first payo in flamenco to be welcomed by gitanos is also ridiculous. For singers you had Silverio, Chacon, etc, for guitar Manolo de Huelva and Niño Ricardo etc. Ricardo
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