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Ricardo -> RE: practicing slow / aches (Sep. 17 2026 11:58:16)
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ORIGINAL: Miguel de Maria
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Maybe Miguel does not like that I was able to make the video from only a partial glance at the score, but it was enough to get the phrasing and fingering in my head after only a few minutes then I went to work from memory of what the score had there.
I like that you can do, but I can't :) I have to use much smaller chunks generally. That's probably because you've forgotten way more flamenco than I've learned. Once in a while, I can learn a whole phrase with a glance, but usually I have to break things down quite a bit.
Right, well, of course it depends on the thing you are learning. Like if someone said "ok wise guy, now do that for La Barrosa". Of course no that won't work the same, because the entire piece is not like attacking ONE falseta. But here is how it could be, I think, for you or anyone.
La Barrosa, ok I would start with ONE "easy" falseta. Like take the escobilla falseta that used horquilla. Right there I am already mentally preparing for the passage. It starts at "1" and ends on "10", that first lick, it is all on the 4th string up and down using A maj barre and then E7/D basic chords. Since I have already drilled that technique otherwise, the first compás is done before even looking at the score or video, or touching my guitar. Next one is the SAME as the first transposed up to B but instead of the chord F#7 he uses C#/E#. So that is 2 cycles and 4 chords already memorized. So that third phrase is C#7 barre 4 and there is some sort of scale in the bass line that is fast and moves up and down in F#minor...."up and down" means I need to simply glance at the score to see which note starts and ends up and where it goes high to low in that F# minor scale, knowing he walks the bass down with that horquilla to F#, so mental note on beats here, and which notes are attack vs ligado etc.
So this is the phrase I need to just LOOK at that passage and try to get a sense in my head of how that goes and of course might need to do a medium slow tempo for the entire falseta based on this ONE spot. Maybe when I get the guitar I will just start drilling this then later encorporate the first two phrases that were easy.
The next phrase is the picado that is off beat triplet then via a note sequence in the scale the same type of phrase as 16ths instead of triplets. Again I just glance at starting and ending notes of those things plus the sequence pattern to get in my head. The chords moved F#m-E-D here. Finally a pulgar ligado on the bases via barre positions of inverted chords D-E-A. And the rasguedo flourish is standard that closes.
So all that and I am mentally prepared to start working on it from a partial quick glance at sources of the fingers. Nothing else about the whole piece need to enter my head before attacking the "problem" which is the speed and timing of Phrase 3 and out of 6 total. For me that took some minutes to address, but maybe for others they need much more....but my point is whatever that extra time is they need to set that all aside and focus on the "problem" spots. Ball park? Everyone that can all ready play basic tech required here (16th picado in burst at 180bpm is hard, horquilla at this speed and ligado/rasgueado abanico, but at normal Alegrias at 140-50bpm all that should be doable), should learn this thing in a day or so. The rest of the "years" of study would only be upping the bpm mark in small increments.
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