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rombsix -> RE: Is this the correct way to fix? (Nov. 12 2025 12:07:45)

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…I can’t handle this, I’m going back to the food thread.


[:D]



Ricardo -> RE: Is this the correct way to fix? (Nov. 13 2025 19:05:20)

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ORIGINAL: hxwhf72752003

Absolutely no. I am seriously consulting. There is no need to prank[8|]


Oh whatever man. You know how to play and own nice guitars, you know how psychotic this is. Even the Conde student guitar is like a typically a decent Sanchis level Valencia that I would recommend to students. No matter how bad a guitar is interms of damage, the top is THE THING that makes a guitar voice character and soul, to replace one is to basically save what exactly? Back and sides that have a label stuck on? Obviously the person acquired trash guitars and wants to do a shock photo thing, like on YouTube I am entertained by idiots smashing guitars. It is a great release of frustrations, but at the end of the day, this thing here is sick, as in psychologically.



hxwhf72752003 -> RE: Is this the correct way to fix? (Nov. 14 2025 5:08:00)

You are right. I was shocked at that time and I was so confused why he destroyed this rare guitar. He is a rough fixer and I will never send my guitar to his place. I wrote this thread because I was interested in that Conde 75. Now I know the old time pearl had become a piece of shxt.[:@]



AndresK -> RE: Is this the correct way to fix? (Nov. 14 2025 6:18:17)

Although I had a good lough with some of the replies in this thread I must admit that these pictures are nightmares material. I wish I had never seen them.

I really did had nightmares with one or the other of my guitars breaking in a non fixable way over the years, waking up in the morning relieved it was just a dream... but this made even the worst of nightmares to come to real life. Now I am traumatized [:D] no for real[:(]



AndresK -> RE: Is this the correct way to fix? (Nov. 14 2025 6:22:28)

Can we have an added warning next to the title like they do in adult or horror movies, or even warning as flashing lights in a video can cause epileptic seizure?

Maybe the title can be edited to "Is this the correct way to fix? - WARNING GRAPHIC CONTENT"



Ricardo -> RE: Is this the correct way to fix? (Nov. 14 2025 12:03:01)

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I really did had nightmares with one or the other of my guitars breaking in a non fixable way over the years, waking up in the morning relieved it was just a dream... b


Same here, for years I had a reoccurring scenario of chasing my Father (who died when I was 17) and finally get him to check out my flamenco guitar which is totally smashed when I open the case.

Let's hear some more![:D]



Arash -> RE: Is this the correct way to fix? (Nov. 14 2025 12:48:33)

Not a nightmare, but actually happened.
Stupid outburst of anger is not good[:D]. Gladly it was "just" a Yamaha

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=108069



rombsix -> RE: Is this the correct way to fix? (Nov. 28 2025 2:55:37)




ernandez R -> RE: Is this the correct way to fix? (Nov. 28 2025 3:20:14)




constructordeguitarras -> RE: Is this the correct way to fix? (The image may be disturbing) (Nov. 28 2025 5:15:40)

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He made two holes on the top and he told me that he was adjusting the top curvature.


Clearly he is not adjusting anything, just destroying the top. I have heard of tops being replaced (though I would not do it), but that must involve removing the fingerboard first.

As previously stated, they guy is an idiot.



mecmachin -> [Deleted] (Nov. 28 2025 11:52:14)

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hxwhf72752003 -> RE: Is this the correct way to fix? (Feb. 4 2026 8:31:50)

Here are the pics of the condition now. There is no clear trace showing the terrible past. But the shape of the guitar looks not correct???







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Arash -> RE: Is this the correct way to fix? (Feb. 4 2026 10:49:14)

This is now a Zombie Conde. Should have been left alone and die in peace.
After that autopsy, and the necromancing procedure, it's soul is now trapped in the underworld.
If you touch this guitar, you will never ever play in compas again.



Ricardo -> RE: Is this the correct way to fix? (Feb. 4 2026 12:40:50)

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But the shape of the guitar looks not correct???


Ok I see what he did. I guess he destroyed the student Conde for the rosette and the same here, preserved the original rosette and maybe bridge, then rebuilt the top and used that other rosette so it looks "authentic"....the plantilla looks messed up but it could be the camera angle. The main point was the top was replaced so it is "not a real Conde" anymore (did he take the top from the Mario Grop and fix the center seam??). Whoever owns it can of course unload a legit looking guitar same rosette and year as Paco de Lucias famous guitar and cash in on the Frankenstein fake. Dramatic, but smart marketing. How much?[;)][:D][:D]



RobF -> RE: Is this the correct way to fix? (Feb. 4 2026 12:53:57)

Looking at the original photo it can be seen the bouts were already messed up before he embarked upon his macabre mission of mayhem. Also, the back shape matches the top, so unfortunately we can't pin this one on him, yer honor.



hxwhf72752003 -> RE: Is this the correct way to fix? (Feb. 4 2026 13:33:46)

Well, I asked him about the price, but he didn't say anything. I think your guess is right. He made this top and used the rosetta to show that one is conde. For the Estudio conde, he did what you said in the reel.

For the Mario guitar, I didn't receive the pics.[:D]



hxwhf72752003 -> RE: Is this the correct way to fix? (Feb. 4 2026 13:38:17)

This guitar was "fixed" perfectly, but lost its original body. I don't have the pics of the original body. I can confirm if this guitar is totally transformed to another "conde" when I get the original pics[:D]



yourwhathurts69 -> RE: Is this the correct way to fix? (Feb. 5 2026 19:57:27)

It looks like he used a blanca bridge on a negra.



hxwhf72752003 -> RE: Is this the correct way to fix? (Feb. 6 2026 12:52:21)

I think he just used the old pattern but made the whole bridge.[:D]



Echi -> RE: Is this the correct way to fix? (Feb. 10 2026 13:00:57)

Actually the guy "just" replaced the top.
As you usually do with this procedure, the luthier savaged the rosette and bridge and replaced the whole top plate.

Problem is that a different top will look the same but sound very different.
That's why you replace a top just if the original one is structurally compromised and have no other options at all.

A 2nd problem is: how faithful to the original plan has been the luthier when reproducing the top?
Did he reproduce the same doming as the original?
Did he pick a very similar wood for density/flexibility ratio to the original?
Did he adopt the same thickness and/or tried to match the top frequencies as the original?



Stu -> RE: Is this the correct way to fix? (Feb. 10 2026 14:10:11)

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I am a confuser
[:D][:D] you certainly are! hehe bad translation right. I genuinely believe you are curious. nut surely you really know the answer or else why ask us?


why are the conde fret boards so chewed up at the sound hole!!??

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I really did had nightmares with one or the other of my guitars breaking in a non fixable way over the years, waking up in the morning relieved it was just a dream

yeah defo had plenty of these! always really badly mangled with strings getting tangled and holding all the cracked wood loosely together. urrggh



Arash -> RE: Is this the correct way to fix? (Feb. 10 2026 14:35:12)

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ORIGINAL: Echi


Did he reproduce the same doming as the original?
Did he pick a very similar wood for density/flexibility ratio to the original?
Did he adopt the same thickness and/or tried to match the top frequencies as the original?


Let's be honest and real here. He probably didn't do any of that looking at the "methods" on first page of this thread. It is just to make a quick buck with that label.
Let's hope this guitar lands in someone's hand who can't play but has lots of extra cash to throw away and nice vitrines with glas cleaned every day by cleaning lady.
Like a nice coffin for Mummified dead Condes.



constructordeguitarras -> RE: Is this the correct way to fix? (Feb. 10 2026 15:10:18)

Interesting that in the video you posted he was able to use a clothes iron to heat the back for removal without damaging the finish much.



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