hxwhf72752003 -> RE: Diego del morao chords (May 8 2025 13:02:10)
Oh I see. Thanks for your explanation. It seems that PDL's music is one of the important parts in flamenco guitar
estebanana -> RE: Diego del morao chords (May 8 2025 15:49:58)
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ORIGINAL: Ricardo
Diego is taking from this thing at 1:36, from Fuente y Caudal originally, although this video came before the album it is the same year, and Diego does his remate with the F major chord Paco first used at :30. He plays lots of PDL note for note, as did his father, and even invite the guy to do a duet on his album....my main point is this "jerez" thing, for me certainly can be found in Manuel Morao, but also people like Cepero, Parrilla and even Nuñez and others, but when people get all like "oooo that is THE jerez thing", and then they point to Diego and father, I look and see them interpreting Paco's stuff, only slower. That ain't right. Yes there is a jerez thing and THAT ain't it. Yes there are personal things too but that is usually nothing more than THE WAY the thing is played, like slow or with swing, softer, louder etc.
While it’s true Moraito isn’t the last word in toques de Jerez, he is unimpeachable or beyond reproach because of who he was and popular he is with knowledgeable aficionados. If anything he’s underrated.
Ricardo -> RE: Diego del morao chords (May 9 2025 11:45:09)
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If anything he’s underrated.
With the track record of singers he worked with, I would not say he is underrated. My first trip to Spain the people both Spanish and foreign that were higher level, where repeating mostly two guys' falsetas: Tomatito and Moraito. Only a couple guys like me were doing material from Paco and Nuñez. That was fairly normal. Then this kid came from Algeciras (Jose Manuel Leon) playing Cañizares falsetas which was bizarre [:D]
The underrated players for me are people like Enrique del Melchor and others that were masters at cante accompaniment but did not make a strong mark as soloists. Cepero ironically hit it big with his rumbas late in life, after semi retirement. He was the "moraito" of his day and honestly a more fair representation of "jerez" style. Today people that associate Moraito (and only that and his followers) as epitome of "jerez" style would say Cepero plays too fast or something. Like I said when Moraito started slowing down the Paco de lucia material and putting that swing on it, suddenly he changed what "jerez style" meant. Not saying that is NOT important, but as a starting point for learning there is a lot behind it.
This thread is about unusual "chords" and I am basically putting out there that the chords are the "same" or at least "no different" than anything Paco introduced long ago, but it is the WAY the material is executed that gives the personal styles.
