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estebanana -> RE: This Rasgueado is difficult for me, any tips to build speed? (Dec. 9 2024 22:47:46)
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ORIGINAL: Mark2
You hate the Marote but can deal with the singing?
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ORIGINAL: estebanana
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ORIGINAL: Ricardo
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I don't see why amii or some abanico wouldn't work here.
It is like accents. Some people don't care about that detail, but if we are honest, it reveals where a person is from. Like if someone does the wrong rasgueado, it gives me an idea where they were born. [:D]. That is why I said "welcome to America!" before. And now even DEVILHAND can hear it! [:D]. So, as much as I can as a teacher I try to show the way it should be done, and if I personally change it, I let people know why I am changing it. In the end perhaps you WANT the accent there. Like I am sure Juan Serrano is aware he does it different than others. To me, it is obvious that he does NOT want to break the uniform sound all down strokes produce vs intermittent up strokes.
It is like saying "pobre Gitana" vs "probe Gitana". Both are correct and tastes will dictate. But to see something like that and not confront that, well, is excuses, laziness, etc. At least when learning. AFTER you have it down, and tastes say you don't like it....then do what you want on the stage, or in your bedroom, for your grandma, whatever.
last thing, anecdote: I will never forget the day the abanico came into question in Gerardo's class, he did the "Marote" and then went around the room, one by one to see how different people were doing it. Well, in America that is ALL we do for dance so I do the heavy duty one, compared to the rest of folks, p up AMI together down, and P up with golpe under. I blasted that thing out and Gerardo, Tino, EVERYBODY in the damn class BURSTED out in laughter. Cuz it was so ridiculous loud compared to everybody they thought I was joking. It is no freaking joke, that is how we do it in 'Merica.
So, I knew it was louder, but until then I had no idea it was so loud it was FUNNY.[:D] I gradually got a clue and fixed my rasguedo concept, so don't take it lightly. I would say Rasguedo and pulgar....get those right with good taste. The rest is not a big deal.
One of the reasons I have little interest in any more with Amerimenco is that blasted ubiquitous rageo. It sounds like a cement mixer at warp speed. It sells dinner seats at supper flamenco shows, but barf. 🤮
Am I now hip as Devildigits?
Two different things, Marote and people trying to be Marote are different. The singing is a bit unfair to go after, even when it’s difficult to sit through. People who are trying to sing are attempting to be aficionados of cante, which is fine with me. That’s an admirable way to figure out flamenco.
Also different, people getting paid to do shows who are not up to professional level singing and those who arrange to meet at a bar or some community space to take turns singing and playing to each other. That’s making an effort to get better at understanding flamenco.
Also different, the throngs of dance students who join classes for a year or two, get good enough to dance in a group student show and quit without ever listening to historically recognized good cante’.
When folks are gutsy enough to learn some letras and try to sing them to each other there’s nothing bad to say a that. Sometimes is surprising how sincerely it can be done. What’s annoying is when someone tries to sing loudly and they aren’t ready for that, the voice gets one dimensional.
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