RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models)

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silddx -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Nov. 12 2024 18:23:05)
quote: but it was 1k , just arrived at my work , it tooked less than 24h to deliver , very well packed , will unpack when i arrive at home. It was 1k and 25 euros(delivery) Are you able to post a photo of the label please? The one inside the guitar I mean, not on the packaging.

Manitas de Lata -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Nov. 12 2024 19:56:12)
cosmetic - fine , great Tunners- Pretty decent , i like more these ones than the others Neck - fine , great , more flat than the other but not to much diference , could be more flat in my opinion , but its fine . Thinier than the other but not to much diference. No dead notes sustain - pretty decent but its just new Sound - could be more punchy (or a lot more) but the guitar is really new. Hard to say because smells a lot of glue (she was finish only some days ago) , after you play some minutes the sound gets better. Needs quite some time to mature and assembly in my opinion, a full year (or almost) should be a lot better , and in 3/5 even more. The sound its still very "closed" , needs to open a lot. And of course it wasnt used old wood ( i didnt request) saddle with 12 holes , so this is a surprise for me... the strings are atached like Nasa style , have to study this. Strings , well im allready used to play with savarez and they feel and sound very very different . The tension is medium but feels more Low or medium low , as they re new (as well the guitar) i have to give more time for they to assembly and give an opinion , but i think Savarez or the other version of this knobloch Sn (the Qz´s) should work a lot better, will choose Savarez. Conclusion , is similar like an old wine (not too old) when opened, you have to let it breed to catch some air and let it assembly to realize his fullfiness (or not). If you try the old wine when just opened it doesnt show his caracter

Manitas de Lata -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Nov. 12 2024 20:29:27)
its the same as these , but of course the date its different Images are resized automatically to a maximum width of 800px

silddx -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Nov. 12 2024 22:17:04)
Cool. What's the finish?

Manitas de Lata -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Nov. 12 2024 22:32:48)
dont know , maybe poly is there anyway to catch visualy the difference since its painted? maybe by the thickness?

Manitas de Lata -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Nov. 12 2024 23:16:00)
strings started to get more stiffness as the guitar gets used to them , start to sound a lot better. now i can feel more the difference of the lower action and thinnier neck etc start to sound really nice , and im getting addicted to her . Now the time will do the rest . very promising .

Manitas de Lata -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Nov. 13 2024 9:21:07)
David Pena Vargas (from Jerez) Funny , beside making great guitars also plays very well.

RobF -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Nov. 13 2024 15:15:46)
quote: ORIGINAL: estebanana http://www.foroflamenco.com/tt.asp?appid=16 This topic is not about guitar making, and it’s beginning to piss me off. Perhaps it could be moved to Product Reviews, that’s really the intention of this thread. Thanks I agree with Stephen. Placed here, this is basically a bitch thread that arose out of someone being upset when the makers on the Foro explained why they don't sell seconds at cut-rate prices. If it wasn't a bitch thread then the OP should be happy to place it in the Product Reviews section, if only as a nod of respect to the request of a maker who has dispensed an enormous amount of free advice and luthier related information over the years. I'm not saying the thread doesn't have value. It does have value. It has simply been pointed out that the location is perhaps inappropriate. It would be a baller thread if it was in the product reviews section. And if the solution is to tell makers to just ignore these types of posts, that's fine, too.

Morante -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Nov. 13 2024 15:17:42)
Have a look at the grain inside. Same as the grain of the back?. Looks like chapa to me. But the image is poor.

RobF -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Nov. 13 2024 15:23:26)
And if Manitas gets his kicks out of poking sticks at people who have tried to help him in the past, how about this little tidbit of dripping irony for your dining pleasure... quote: Im selling the "old" factory one cheap , still... sounds great as the time flies. Will not sell for less than 500 . Two can play at that game...

Manitas de Lata -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Nov. 13 2024 15:45:58)
those arent mine he just asked for the labels, and the labels are the same mine is solid , btw i think he doesnt make chapa .

Manitas de Lata -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Nov. 13 2024 15:48:59)
im kind of backin off selling the "old" cheap , shes in perfect condition and sounds very good competing with some more expensive , the sound achieved a very nice maturity. So i think im going to get her out of the market. If i would need the money fast in the future , i would have to sell it .

Manitas de Lata -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Nov. 13 2024 16:03:46)
one thing is what you think , other is What it is by itself , but for my point of view you re not totally incorrect.... just the sentimental stuff of Arose , upset etc... im too old too care for somethings specially from people i really dont know... You know this forum way better than me , be complety honest and tell us who is normally not so polite (or whatever) around here... To finish this , as you might have seen allready , this isnt review topic , its a topic to get to know many guitarreros (in spain) that some dont really know that exist. As you can see theres dozens of them.. some more expensive some more cheap, some more experienced some less , you got it all. Some videos have reviews because its the easier to check some guitarreros , some dont have , or the most dont have , only have some people playing without talkin. Really dont see the issue here , any monopoly around here i didnt notice? Im not selling guitars , i dont work selling guitars , i dont have music companys , not a broker or what so ever , so , Whats up?

Manitas de Lata -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Nov. 13 2024 16:31:45)
btw his company in Aldaia (Valencia) was destroyed , and it wasnt the only one in the area , some very small (like one man operation that works at home) were also destroyed.

RobF -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Nov. 13 2024 17:07:12)
quote: ORIGINAL: Manitas de Lata one thing is what you think , other is What it is by itself , but for my point of view you re not totally incorrect.... just the sentimental stuff of Arose , upset etc... im too old too care for somethings specially from people i really dont know... ...Really dont see the issue here , any monopoly around here i didnt notice? Im not selling guitars , i dont work selling guitars , i dont have music companys , not a broker or what so ever , so , Whats up? That's alright... People are free to seek out the original thread, follow the sequence of events, and draw their own conclusions.

Manitas de Lata -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Nov. 13 2024 18:57:18)
Andres Marvi https://www.guitarrasmarvi.com/en/ Andrés Daniel Marvi, born in 1956. In his youth he already played the guitar with regularity. After having finished his A – levels, he gave lessons in several conservatories. Meanwhile he devoted himself to designing his hand – made guitars with the aim of creating his own sounds. In 1984 he took part in a guitar course in Zurich under the guidance of José Luis Romanillos. In this way his talent as a craftsman was confirmed as well as his manual dexterity and capability. He took an exam in guitar manufacturing in Erlangen in 1985. Andrés D. Marvi has lived since 1988 in a small spanish village near the guitar metropolis of Granada. Now he can look back to his more than 30 years of making guitars. Amongst some of the guitarrists who play Marvi´s guitars is the „virtuoso“ Aniello Desiderio “Il Fenomeno“, a century guitarist. Also Graham Devine the 1st prize winner of the Alhambra International Guitar Competition 2002 and 1st prize winner Emilio Pujol Competition Italy 2002. The winner Goran Krivokapic of the Alhambra International Guitar Competition 2004. It is there that he makes his instruments, surrounded by Andalusian atmosphere and he keeps in touch with numerous colleagues of the same trade. After a number of years of guitars handfactoring and always open to innovations, Marvi took part in a further higher course in 1992 once again with Romanillos in the city of Cordoba. His permanent contact with the guitar world led him to the guitar festival of Liechtenstein (LiGiTa) in 1996. It was in Liechtenstein that he met the guitar dealer Norbert Giebel, who immediately recognised the extraordinary quality of the Marvi guitar. After exchanging their views, Marvi created a new model of concert guitar. The great Flamenco Guitarist Gerardo Núñez is playing a Marvi ”negra“and recorded his learning DVD on Marvi. not very easy to find someone play with them (flamenco) recently or very recently , on the other way around classics are easy to find

silddx -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Nov. 13 2024 22:05:27)
quote: its the same as these , but of course the date its different Thanks, be good to see or hear you playing it.

Manitas de Lata -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Nov. 13 2024 22:32:39)
i have to find a way to record with some quality , my android phone is nice , but the audio record isnt (in oposite of Iphone for example) like the camera if you take fotos meters away. Theres nothing worse than listen to someone playing badly with poor audio sound [:D] (maybe a bad singer and poor audio quality)

hxwhf72752003 -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Nov. 14 2024 8:37:28)
Andres Marvi is good. I like his guitars. But they are a little bit expensive for me. [:(] I found that Dani de Moron liked using Marvi till he had a Juan Miguel Gonzalez. Rafael Riqueni also likes using it though he has Mariano Conde and Jesus de Jimenez. [:D]

Manitas de Lata -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Nov. 14 2024 9:36:01)
man , people need to put food on the table..[:D] Well , show must go on joahnnes tkindt (Granada, again) https://johannestkindt.com/en/flamenco-guitar/

Manitas de Lata -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Nov. 14 2024 12:41:23)
Oscar Munoz (Granada)

Manitas de Lata -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Nov. 15 2024 11:05:59)
José Romero (Madrid)

Manitas de Lata -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Nov. 15 2024 11:58:53)
i remember the other brand that i think belongs to Jose Montes Rodriguez and its an economical line , its called "Azahar" https://www.guitarras-azahar.com/ see that its also from Aldaya , if their done on the same place (juan montes) now its destroyed dont have much info about them regarding playing , but i think their stif , hard to play, not worthing

Manitas de Lata -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Nov. 15 2024 23:19:16)
Vicente Quiles Workshop also destroyed

Manitas de Lata -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Feb. 14 2025 10:35:32)
Graciliano Peres (cordoba) Something its off to me

RobF -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Feb. 14 2025 10:50:33)
I don't know if you've mentioned Jerónimo Perez. He might not fit the category (he gets a reasonable prices for his work) but he is related to our own Morante so I thought I'd put his name out here.

Manitas de Lata -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Feb. 14 2025 13:31:15)
i think i didnt yet , those Solera videos allways sound great Let me check a more natural video with that maker By the way , i heard a Blanca from Pedro de Miguel from late 90´s (stock) and sound amazing... cheap as hell 2nd hand, new impolute , less than 1k

Manitas de Lata -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Feb. 14 2025 13:49:52)
heard some videos , and i like the dryness sound to it, traditional , very nice Medium quality sound videos (i prefer these) not much recent videos with medium quality with blancas , but a lot from solera The negras sound nice too

Manitas de Lata -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Feb. 17 2025 16:56:00)
Manuel Camargo Aranda Construcción de guitarras totalmente artesanales. Tlf 635146246 mca.guitarras@gmail.com Sevilla - Córdoba https://www.youtube.com/@mcaguitarras Somethings off on the Buleria , but better siguiriya

Ricardo -> RE: Spanish (or based) Guitar Makers (economical, others models) (Feb. 17 2025 19:43:17)
This has turned into guitar spam. As much as I love guitars, and my coffee table books of guitar porn, this thread should be in some other spot.

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