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Very often the rhythm executed first at 4:06 is how that 5 stroke rasgueado is executed if you slow the recording down

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He executed it wrong. He did not play a triplet. Instead he did straight four notes. Thats why it sounds like 5 stroke ras to you. Rhythm is math. He should either correct the notation or play as it is.

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He executed it wrong. He did not play a triplet. Instead he did straight four notes. Thats why it sounds like 5 stroke ras to you. Rhythm is math. He should either correct the notation or play as it is.

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ORIGINAL: silddx

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He executed it wrong. He did not play a triplet. Instead he did straight four notes. Thats why it sounds like 5 stroke ras to you. Rhythm is math. He should either correct the notation or play as it is.

Yep, you're right he played 1234 5 (not 123 45 as displayed). But I bet Ricardo meant how it sounds 1234 5 is how some 5 stroke ras are executed.

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Yep, you're right he played 1234 5 (not 123 45 as displayed). But I bet Ricardo meant how it sounds 1234 5 is how some 5 stroke ras are executed.

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I would love to know which universe you guys live in where a triplet followed by a note of ANY FREAKING KIND, is supposed to have a space between them????????

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ORIGINAL: Stu

[:@]arghhhh my eyes!!!

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He executed it wrong. He did not play a triplet. Instead he did straight four notes. Thats why it sounds like 5 stroke ras to you. Rhythm is math. He should either correct the notation or play as it is.

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I would love to know which universe you guys live in where a triplet followed by a note of ANY FREAKING KIND, is supposed to have a space between them????????

Anyway, every thing was executed properly, it is as I said it is in MANY CASES…not all.

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1234 5. You see space between 4 & 5? There must be another beat or note. Overall we have 6 beats - a sextuplet.

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1234 5. You see space between 4 & 5? There must be another beat or note. Overall we have 6 beats - a sextuplet.

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ORIGINAL: devilhand

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Yep, you're right he played 1234 5 (not 123 45 as displayed). But I bet Ricardo meant how it sounds 1234 5 is how some 5 stroke ras are executed.

I'll avoid this guy's youtube videos. Instead of quintuplet he brought in sextuplet where the 4th of the six beats is omitted. But he played as if the 5th beat was omitted. It's a big mistake.

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I would love to know which universe you guys live in where a triplet followed by a note of ANY FREAKING KIND, is supposed to have a space between them????????

For example a sextuplet where the 4th of the six beats is omitted.

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Question. Do all notes ever need to be evenly spaced as if by a computer?

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Sorry, you're flat wrong. He played it exactly right.
Emojis and joke comments aside. You are wrong. Not the video

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ORIGINAL: silddx

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1234 5. You see space between 4 & 5? There must be another beat or note. Overall we have 6 beats - a sextuplet.

Did you see a rest in there? No you did not.

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1^2^3^4_5_

123 are all part of the triplet. So share the same time value
The 4 and 5 are not. so share a different time value.

But the time value only comes after each note is played. So naturally the 4 will come immediately after the 3 because the time value of the 3 is that of one note in the triplet. Then the space will feel big between the 4 and 5.

I'm not great at explaining this stuff with only text on internet forum. And my terminology probably leaves a bit to be desired.

But it's being played Right. You are hearing it Right. But you are understanding it Wrong.

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You have no clue what you are talking about. There were no spaces or rests in the examples discussed.

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Question. Do all notes ever need to be evenly spaced as if by a computer?


If you consider the difference between quantization and “swing” then simply YES. Because technically you can program the swing into a computer notation too, it is all just math. Basically whatever happens the human player goal should be CONTROL, not hit or miss. For example a deliberate and controlled speed up means you place your subdivisions earlier than they should be if you want a solid tempo.

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123 and 5 have the same note value. 4 has two times more note value than other notes because it took up the value of the omitted beat.

You can put rest after 4 but this guy played it without rest.
If there was a rest, all notes 12345 would have the same note value. A rest would represent the omitted beat or note.

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123 and 5 have the same note value

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No, 5's time value is 50% longer than 1,2, or 3.

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5s time value is the same as that of 123 when we hear it.

Let me explain why.
The whole thing lasts 12 seconds. 12 is randomly taken so that people get what I mean.
2 2 2 4 2 this is how it sounds.
His notation is 2 2 4 2 2.

Starting point is to subdivide a beat evenly into small beats. In this example into 6 subbeats. Every subbeat lasts 2 seconds. 2 2 2 2 2 2.
As we see his notation can't be a quintuplet. It's a sextuplet.
Hope it's clear now.

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I hate polyrhythm.

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Of course it's not. But I wrote above 2 straight quarter notes can be a quarter note triplet. That means they both can be played at the same time. It would be 2:3 or 3:2 polyrhythm.