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joevidetto -> Manolo Sanlucar - review of Tauromagia (May 14 2022 12:09:21)

by Jose Carlos Gomez - I wish it had English subtitles.






Ricardo -> RE: Manolo Sanlucar - review of Tauromagia (May 14 2022 16:06:14)

This is a good read along, written by a famous bullfighter Francisco Montes. He is specifically referenced in regards to songs in George Borrow’s “The bible in Spain”, and indirectly as part of a group of “toreros” in “The Zincali” that were deeply concerned about the songs of “Los del Afición”. Although there is no mention in the Montes book about flamenco or music, I feel there has long been a connection worth investigating, the story culminating with Sanlucar’s album of the late 1980s. Also, the melody of the Solea sung by Indio Gitano (el Moro) seems to be based on the Siguiriyas Silverio 1, the second half of the letra.

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/63030/63030-h/63030-h.htm

And some pictures of Goya to go with the above:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Tauromaquia




devilhand -> RE: Manolo Sanlucar - review of Tauromagia (May 19 2022 12:32:27)

Sad to see M. Sanlucar in this shape 28:35. First I thought it was someone else.

The most scariest thing in life is time. It's ruthless and doesn't negotiate.





tk -> RE: Manolo Sanlucar - review of Tauromagia (May 20 2022 0:27:35)

wow what happened to him? looks like he went thru a head operation?




Ricardo -> RE: Manolo Sanlucar - review of Tauromagia (May 20 2022 13:33:44)

It does look like they had to cut into his head there. Not sure, but I found this from September. Looks like this concert was postponed since then till last Saturday.

[The flamenco guitarist and composer Manolo Sanlúcar, 77, has been discharged this afternoon from the Jerez hospital, where he has been admitted since last Friday, sources close to the artist have informed EFE. After spending several days in serious condition, the artist's situation has evolved favorably and the medical team that has treated him has decided to discharge him today so that he can continue his recovery at his home in Sanlúcar de Barrameda.
Manolo Sanlúcar was admitted to the Jerez hospital last Friday after suffering a fainting spell at his house. The flamenco guitar master, who has long suffered from a kidney condition for which he requires dialysis, had suffered multiple organ failure.
The income forced to postpone the III International Flamenco Guitar Festival of Jerez, scheduled for September 1, 2 and 3, 2021 and which was going to pay tribute to the famous guitarist in this edition.]




Piwin -> RE: Manolo Sanlucar - review of Tauromagia (May 20 2022 14:20:15)

Might explain why the site to sell his magnum opus was such a mess. Site seems to be down btw. At least I can't find it anymore.

I wish him well.




Ricardo -> RE: Manolo Sanlucar - review of Tauromagia (May 26 2022 12:54:07)

Forgot to add that the venue the tribute concert was held in (Auditorio de Merced in Sanlucar) is the exact place where we do classes with Gerardo Nuñez. For example the video of Trafalgar I put on YouTube is filmed right there. Looks like they have changed the name to “Auditorio de Manolo Sanlucar”. Honestly have to wonder if he chose that venue deliberately knowing Gerardo uses it for guitar students. I mean, the whole town knows that every year these guiri guitar players come overtake the town and walk up that hill every morning. [:D]




Ricardo -> RE: Manolo Sanlucar - review of Tauromagia (Dec. 6 2023 15:22:43)

When I was in Spain last summer I picked up the vinyl version, which I love. Universal music picked it up and re-released it. The main difference between this and the CD version, is that it turns out each track is dedicated to a different bullfighter. Hearing Vicente and Farruquito talk about some of them, I thought it would be interesting for folks to have some of that background for each track on the album. Some, like Limeño and the Vasquez brothers, relate to the actual track title, some have a home town related to the palo like Bulería and Rafael de Paula (Barrio Santiago Jerez). The gentlemen named for De Capote and Banderillas relate to the Hemingway story.

Nacencia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvaro_Domecq_y_Diez

Maletilla:
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paco_Ojeda

Oracion:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curro_Romero

also, perhaps a double meaning, the first bullfighter on foot (1720s) was from Ronda (hence Rondeña?) with the same name:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Romero_(bullfighter)

Maestranza:
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepe_Luis_Vazquez
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manolo_Vazquez

De Capote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Ord%C3%B3%C3%B1ez_

Tercio de Vara:
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_de_Paula

Banderillas:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Miguel_Dominguin

De Muleta:
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anto%C3%B1ete

Puerta del Principe:
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Mart%C3%ADnez_Lime%C3%B1o




Manitas de Lata -> RE: Manolo Sanlucar - review of Tauromagia (Feb. 19 2025 20:17:01)

all are top flamenco masterpiece , some reminds me more country side others "corrida"

Those for me are more a like country side and "corrida", i think Alegrias and sevilhanas are more a like i guess, generaly speaking

Nacencia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvaro_Domecq_y_Diez

Maestranza:
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepe_Luis_Vazquez
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manolo_Vazquez

Tercio de Vara:
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafael_de_Paula

Puerta del Principe:
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Mart%C3%ADnez_Lime%C3%B1o




Erik van Goch -> RE: Manolo Sanlucar - review of Tauromagia (Feb. 19 2025 20:53:50)

The only chance ever I had to attend a concert of Manolo Sanlucar (a world premiere scedueled in Teatro de la Maestranza of all places) unfortunately was canceled by Sanlucar for artistic reasons. On general I'm not a huge fan of him but tauromagia is simply magical. Played that record a million times.

I hate bullfighting but I have to admit it lead to various epic flamenco tributes like this one. Unfortunately it's incomplete but couln'd find the complete version (it might be on Facebook).

https://youtu.be/xp--o_g6QII?si=oTmVixiexj8XZw5Z




Manitas de Lata -> RE: Manolo Sanlucar - review of Tauromagia (Mar. 6 2025 20:26:51)

is there any tutorial for nacencia?
some tracks that i love dont have , cant find (like rafael riqueni pureza and vicents "dear metheny" )

is this the best/easiest version around youtu?





Ricardo -> RE: Manolo Sanlucar - review of Tauromagia (Mar. 7 2025 11:37:39)





Manitas de Lata -> RE: Manolo Sanlucar - review of Tauromagia (Mar. 7 2025 12:10:49)

thanks Ricardo , thats beautifull..... and seems as the original and complete, amazing , i think this is the best cover..
Saw some versions without capo , is the original with capo? why play this piece with or without capo ? just for playability?




Ricardo -> RE: Manolo Sanlucar - review of Tauromagia (Mar. 7 2025 13:56:40)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Manitas de Lata

thanks Ricardo , thats beautifull..... and seems as the original and complete, amazing , i think this is the best cover..
Saw some versions without capo , is the original with capo? why play this piece with or without capo ? just for playability?


Capo 1, or F major on the original. As I am doing. It actually makes it harder to play due to the high portion of the melody on the 4th string. One has to be very careful with the fretting up there. I want to pull the C# a hair flat to intonate with the open A string (notice the other guy lets it sound a bit sharp which is actually correct temperament, but if it is a solo we have room to play around and sweeten certain intervals). Honestly I used to play this piece as an intro for other material that I play with no capo, and should have practiced it first, but manolo had just passed away and I just went outside and recorded one take. I can do it better with some practice. I used the capo only because the intonation on this guitar was a bit off since my treble strings were worn at the nut and sounded a bit off. The capo negates the open string verse fretted note discrepancy. I could have just put new strings but it takes time to stretch and I felt time was of the essence.




RobF -> RE: Manolo Sanlucar - review of Tauromagia (Mar. 7 2025 14:21:31)

A very soulful and heartfelt tribute to the master. Beautiful rendition, Ricardo.




Ricardo -> RE: Manolo Sanlucar - review of Tauromagia (Mar. 7 2025 15:50:53)

In case you guys missed some older discussions of the piece:
http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=66678&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=nacencia&tmode=&smode=&s=#66678

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=239711&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=nacencia&tmode=&smode=&s=#239711

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=269938&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=nacencia&tmode=&smode=&s=#269938

Here is when I posted the video above (same day Morante shared the sad news):
http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=342190&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=manolo%2C2022&tmode=&smode=&s=#342196




Manitas de Lata -> RE: Manolo Sanlucar - review of Tauromagia (Mar. 7 2025 17:08:50)

thanks Ricardo , yes i saw all the discussions before these.
One thing i also like a lot , its the buzz , love to hear the buzz , not sure if i like to play with buzz (long time that i dont try it).




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