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estebanana -> RE: Building two under influence of a 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso (Feb. 11 2021 1:23:13)

I’ll do a post on the bass soon.

Here are a few pictures of the sound port and 20th fret final- I have to make a magnetic cover for the sound port, still searching for the right magnets.



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estebanana -> RE: Building two under influence of a 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso (Feb. 11 2021 1:25:08)

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Ricardo -> RE: Building two under influence of a 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso (Feb. 11 2021 1:35:31)

Really nice!




JasonM -> RE: Building two under influence of a 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso (Feb. 11 2021 2:05:40)

I like the brown motif. I’d also like to see the bass. That’s really cool that you got one!




estebanana -> RE: Building two under influence of a 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso (Feb. 18 2021 22:00:17)

I’m working on an ergonomic shape for a sound port cover. Because that thing can be difficult to grab.



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estebanana -> RE: Building two under influence of a 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso (Feb. 18 2021 22:02:22)

Thumb and middle finger grip, with pressure from index. Push / pull



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ernandez R -> RE: Building two under influence of a 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso (Feb. 19 2021 5:29:45)

Friction fit? Cork like a whisky bung?

Ha, reread up thread and you said magnets...

HR




estebanana -> RE: Building two under influence of a 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso (Feb. 19 2021 8:39:58)

What if I told you this was a special laboratory grown peyote button ?




BarkellWH -> RE: Building two under influence of a 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso (Feb. 19 2021 16:31:41)

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What if I told you this was a special laboratory grown peyote button ?


I would think you've been re-reading Carlos Castaneda's fraudulent books on the "shaman" Don Juan.

Bill




Richard Jernigan -> RE: Building two under influence of a 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso (Feb. 20 2021 3:41:07)

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ORIGINAL: BarkellWH

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What if I told you this was a special laboratory grown peyote button ?


I would think you've been re-reading Carlos Castaneda's fraudulent books on the "shaman" Don Juan.

Bill


They may have been fraudulent, but they were really entertaining, and his "research" got him a PhD from UCLA.

RNJ




BarkellWH -> RE: Building two under influence of a 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso (Feb. 20 2021 13:58:31)

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They may have been fraudulent, but they were really entertaining, and his "research" got him a PhD from UCLA. RNJ


There is a Yaqui Indian community called Guadalupe just south of and adjacent to Tempe, Arizona. My parents and I used to go watch their Easter ceremonies, which are still performed today, a combination of native Yaqui culture and Christianity.

When Castaneda's books came out in the late 1960s and '70s, it was a time when many young people were embracing the idea of an "alternative reality" to be experienced with LSD, mushrooms, peyote, and the like. I think Castaneda was riding that wave with his so-called "research" under the supposed tutelage of the Yaqui "shaman" Don Juan.

Many scholars criticized his works at the time they came out as being fiction. He was challenged by scholars, but never really defended himself, leading to further speculation that his works were fraudulent as anthropology. And some scholars of Yaqui culture pointed out that Don Juan had no vocabulary possessed by actual Yaqui shamans or priests.

Yeah, it was fun at the time and filled a certain "zeitgeist," but in 1973, Time magazine probably summed it up best, describing Castaneda as "an enigma wrapped in a mystery wrapped in a tortilla." And that UCLA awarded him a PhD based on his so-called "research" just demonstrates how easily taken in universities were at that time by the "zeitgeist."

Bill




estebanana -> RE: Building two under influence of a 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso (Feb. 21 2021 14:26:14)

The research Castaneda did is probably cited more in masters degree writing programs than in anthropology doctorates, still I can’t find fault. My opinion, Castaneda was getting one over on an on academic setting. He managed to defend his dissertation and sell a lot of magical realism novels. I think he knew very much he was having it both ways. The thing that separates his fantasy writing from Tolkien or JK Rowling is that his world is as based on a real possibility that hallucinating could take you through Don Juan’s world. And yes it was a book that came and the right time in pop culture that lsd was trending in.

I misspelled Castaneda and autocorrect suggested Castanets... why not?




mark indigo -> RE: Building two under influence of a 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso (Feb. 21 2021 15:39:04)

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The thing that separates his fantasy writing from Tolkien


Tolkien apparently based his stuff on Anglo-Saxon and Germanic myth and legend, and was trying to fill in the gaps left by the loss of Anglo-Saxon literature. Also I have been told (ahem) that if you take enough of the local Psilocybin you will discover that the hills of South Western England and South Wales are in fact populated by an abundance of Hobbits, Elves and Dwarves. Watch out for the Orcs though, they dress in blue, wear round pointy hats and carry truncheons.




estebanana -> RE: Building two under influence of a 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso (Feb. 21 2021 17:14:30)

By saying there’s a separation I meant that Castaneda wrote about shamanism that in reality does include taking drugs, whereas with The LOTR drugs are optional 😂

But the concept of Gandalf and Don Juan do have some intersections.




Piwin -> RE: Building two under influence of a 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso (Feb. 21 2021 18:19:18)

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But the concept of Gandalf and Don Juan do have some intersections


They both liked sax?





RobF -> RE: Building two under influence of a 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso (Feb. 21 2021 18:21:54)

All this talk about peyote is fine and dandy and all, but I still think that chunk of hashish you’re using as a plug is gonna cause you problems at the border. It’ll be OK in here Canada, though.

The main problem with those plugs, is they don’t last...




Ricardo -> RE: Building two under influence of a 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso (Feb. 22 2021 0:07:10)

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Ten hours and it is not even synced in compas? [:D]




estebanana -> RE: Building two under influence of a 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso (Feb. 22 2021 0:59:03)

The reason this guitar has a sound port is because it’s not a guitar but an elaborate assembly of wood panels and interior glass work carefully crafted to look exactly like a guitar; the sound port hole actually indicates this is a very carefully designed giant bong.




Richard Jernigan -> RE: Building two under influence of a 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso (Feb. 22 2021 19:42:41)

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ORIGINAL: estebanana
the sound port hole actually indicates this is a very carefully designed giant bong.


Be careful with that thing.

One of my best friends went through a very rough patch in life. Among many bad things that happened to him, his father pressured him strongly to take up the family business, for which my friend was totally unsuited, and then died. Among all the other bad stuff, about the only thing my friend had going for him was that his wonderful wife stuck with him.

A few years later, when things had smoothed out a good deal, he was talking over what had gone wrong for him. I said, "Some people said you were smoking a little too much weed."

He replied, "From my point of view, I was barely able to smoke enough."

RNJ




mark indigo -> RE: Building two under influence of a 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso (Feb. 22 2021 19:48:50)

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By saying there’s a separation I meant that Castaneda wrote about shamanism that in reality does include taking drugs, whereas with The LOTR drugs are optional 😂


They're optional? Noone told me that...[&:]

(Actually I never read the Tolkien books until the films were about to come out. I knew someone would try drag me to the cinema to see them [they did] so I wanted to have read them first)

There is also speculation about the place of psilocybin in pre-Christian European shamanism. All those Celtic/Germanic/Norse myths about flying, pixies, elves etc.
Also there is a theory that the mediaeval witches "flying" on broomsticks and copulating with spirit beings were in fact applying an hallucinogenic "flying ointment" to sensitive parts of their body with the handles of said broomsticks.... I'm actually not making this up.... though the folks that came up with this might have been...[:D]




Richard Jernigan -> RE: Building two under influence of a 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso (Feb. 23 2021 1:11:16)

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ORIGINAL: BarkellWH
And some scholars of Yaqui culture pointed out that Don Juan had no vocabulary possessed by actual Yaqui shamans or priests.


It's been a very long time since I read Castaneda, but I recollect he had a dodge for this. It was claimed, either by Don Juan or by Carlito, that Don Juan's "knowledge" actually came from the Toltecs.

This was a safe bet, because even the Aztecs didn't know who, or exactly where the Toltecs had been, just that there were some important religious beliefs attributed to them. For example Quetzalcoatl, the flying serpent of Mexico, turned up as Kukulkan in Mayan country in late pre-Columbian times, while the Toltec story said he had disappeared to the east and would return from there. The Aztecs assumed the Toltecs had something to do with the huge city of Teotihuacan, which had been abandoned for 450 years when the Aztecs showed up in the Valley of Mexico and started raising hell there.

I don't remember any of the Aztecs' (Mexicas') Toltec stories turning up in Castaneda. You have to give him credit for originality.[:-]

RNJ




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Richard Jernigan -> RE: Building two under influence of a 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso (Feb. 23 2021 16:04:31)

Congratulations on the new saw!

RNJ




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estebanana -> RE: Building two under influence of a 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso (Feb. 24 2021 2:06:19)

I think this band saw is about 50 years old, I’m going to research it. But I’m crazy about this design, it’s so well thought out and precision milled.

I don’t know why these photos are posting sideways, they are correctly formatted in my picture library—- sorry hold your monitor sideways... I’ll fix it later.



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RobF -> RE: Building two under influence of a 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso (Feb. 24 2021 4:52:35)

Cool saw, it looks like it’s easily 50 years old, if not quite a bit more. I’d be a little worried about the cat, though, maybe there’s something that can be done about covering the lower portion of the drive wheels and belt. But animals are smarter about these things than we give them credit for, so probably a non-issue.

I’ve been experiencing the sideways photo issue, too. I use an iPad and I thought it was due to resizing the pictures when attaching them. But I found if I edited the picture and rotated it 180, closed it then re-edited to rotate it a further 180 back to normal, for some reason the attachment then happens without a hitch. No idea why, however.


P.S. I love how the saw looks so elegant and refined from the front, but step around back and you’d think you’ve walked into a scene from Chaplin’s ‘Modern Times’, lol.




estebanana -> RE: Building two under influence of a 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso (Feb. 24 2021 14:53:11)

I found Towa is a Polish company, that maybe licensed the design to be build in Japan..not sure yet. I have some serial numbers to research





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estebanana -> RE: Building two under influence of a 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso (Feb. 24 2021 14:59:30)

Towa



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estebanana -> RE: Building two under influence of a 1973 Sobrinos de Esteso (Apr. 8 2021 1:27:33)

Well, the first guitar got finished an delivered, but I put off making a sound sample because it’s a left handed guitar. So the experiment continues and when the buyer eventually makes a sound sample I’ll have something.
Meanwhile I’m swamped with all kinds of other projects and work. More commissions for classicals and interestingly more blancas with pegs.

I’ve spent the last two weeks fixing and cleaning my out building where the power tools are... here’s the view out of the back door of the shop three years ago in June.



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