RE: Jose Ramirez 1AF 656 Negra any good? (Full Version)

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sartorius -> RE: Jose Ramirez 1AF 656 Negra any good? (Feb. 15 2020 9:46:29)

Currently, there are no builders in Madrid concentrating exclusively on building flamenco guitars that I know of except José Romero.

I own a 2017 Brasilian/Spruce scaled in 650 bought in his shop (a rarity as he only swears by 660s). No fear to say it's a world class instrument beautifully crafted with time and love. It has that much-liked 'Madrid sound' appreciated everywhere.

Romero would have made so much more money in his life building classicals but he happens to be fond of flamenco and that's it. His son plays in tablaos of Madrid.




Echi -> RE: Jose Ramirez 1AF 656 Negra any good? (Feb. 15 2020 18:18:38)

I’m not sure a one-man shop would ever make good money selling handmade classical guitars nowadays, with few exceptions.
Anyway I agree Romero is a very good maker and quite cheap for his quality. If he dealt with classical guitars his name would me more known.
Romero left Ramirez in ‘84 I think.
He is a good example of what I stated above: the guitars made by Ramirez in the eighties were made by first class workers. I‘ve been particularly happy with Ramirez guitars 1980-1990, particularly a couple of flamenco with short serial number starting with an A (I don’t know what that means and not even Ramirez).
For instance Mariano Tezanos and Teodoro Perez used to be employees of Ramirez in those years: they started a joined business just in 91 (Tezanos-Perez) and later on they will work for Bernabe and with many other shops in Madrid. Few years ago they split and now you have Teodoro Perez having good fame.
Pedro Perez and Miguel Anguel Rodriguez (after known with the brand Pedro de Miguel) are other 2 employees who left Ramirez just in 95 etc.
I have been told that even the main luthier of Felipe Conde was a Ramirez worker of those years.
Soundwise I still prefer the Conde of those years (and of course Reyes, Gerundino etc.) but this is me.




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