Echi -> RE: Jose Ramirez 1AF 656 Negra any good? (Feb. 4 2020 10:07:30)
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I agree with the description of the sound: balanced with sweet tone. In my case also powerful. In fact new Ramirez are nothing else but the same guitar made famous by Sabicas (same plantilla, same bracing and geometry) but with spruce top and (I guess) thicker plates for added boldness and sweetness in the trebles. In my 1986 Ramirez, the quality of the workmanship is evident as the quality of the woods; in line with the high standards of Ramirez. Btw, speaking of professional players, my very Ramirez used to belong first to the great Manuel Cano and after to the leading player of the GuitArt quartet. Sides and back have been repaired 3 times, but I like it. Sweet, fat and firm trebles are a big plus for a guitar, not a limit. This becomes evident if you play whatever piece of Amigo or Rey and eventually is a quality recalling Sabicas in the past and the guitars of Reyes nowadays. The basses or my Ramirez are instead firm. It’s not all gold: my main guitar (an old Conde) is stronger and I like it more, but it’s not as lyrical as the Ramirez. Speaking of price, 700 $ is nothing and 10.000 is too much imho. For 5000 you are plenty of good alternatives in the same league and very connected with Ramirez (Teodoro Perez, Pedro de Miguel, Jose’ Romero, Manuel Caceres, Manzanero jr. etc.). For less than 5000 you are plenty of good alternatives elsewhere either or you just will look at the second hand market. Robje, I dealt many times with Solera and they buy (for very few Btw) just what they are sure to sell quickly, hence their preference for cedar Ramirez. Also Ramirez built many more cedar flamenco guitars than spruce ones and that’s why is easier to find them in the 2nd hand market.
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