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Piwin -> RE: Keeping the pulse (May 27 2020 9:08:14)

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..but does it come in nitro finish?!


[:D]

Re: konnakol, Mclaughlin has a teaching video on how he uses it for guitar. Dunno how it sounds for someone who actually practices Indian classical music though.



sim999 -> RE: Keeping the pulse (May 27 2020 13:49:43)

This one is funny too :




Ricardo -> RE: Keeping the pulse (May 27 2020 16:41:07)

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ORIGINAL: Piwin

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..but does it come in nitro finish?!


[:D]

Re: konnakol, Mclaughlin has a teaching video on how he uses it for guitar. Dunno how it sounds for someone who actually practices Indian classical music though.


He meant it as a compliment to his instructional guitar video, which only has chapter 10-12 focused on odd meter examples. He steps aside and let’s Selva Ganesh teach all the konnakol on that video. And selva used the metronome.



Piwin -> RE: Keeping the pulse (May 28 2020 17:16:19)

Right. I watched it years ago so maybe my memory's blurry. I remember the other guy teaching the rudiments. Not doubting his qualifications. Just wondering if, since IIRC it's designed as basics to then apply to the guitar, whether it's like videos teaching people to clap 3-6-8-10-12 kind-of-thing. Given how large a world Indian classical music is, I figured there might be experts out there disputing how Mclaughlin used certain basics of konnakol in his own music.



Ricardo -> RE: Keeping the pulse (May 28 2020 17:56:14)

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ORIGINAL: Piwin

Right. I watched it years ago so maybe my memory's blurry. I remember the other guy teaching the rudiments. Not doubting his qualifications. Just wondering if, since IIRC it's designed as basics to then apply to the guitar, whether it's like videos teaching people to clap 3-6-8-10-12 kind-of-thing. Given how large a world Indian classical music is, I figured there might be experts out there disputing how Mclaughlin used certain basics of konnakol in his own music.


Using the system or not for non Indian music will not be perceptible. He is simply admitting he used the system for ALL his music, not just shakti. Once you learned the rudiments it should be obvious how to apply it to any style.



Piwin -> RE: Keeping the pulse (May 28 2020 21:08:53)

I honestly don't remember how far they get in that video. If it's just the very basics just to show how you can use strings of syllables to match groupings of X notes, then sure, works for anything. But if you keep going at some point it starts to get caught up in larger concepts of Indian music.



Piwin -> RE: Keeping the pulse (Jun. 1 2020 13:51:47)

Ended up just trying to do some of those 16th-note patterns to a metronome set at more or less their speed. Got lost pretty quickly. I have trouble "resetting" between fast picado bursts if the pause between the two is that short.



kitarist -> RE: Keeping the pulse (Jun. 1 2020 18:39:42)

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Have you tried following the score doing one-note picado?


Ha. It would have been nice if the score also had the underlying 12.4.6. hand pattern explicitly written as she gets off it with the syllables almost immediately; then it would be easier to follow and appreciate the syncopations, so to speak. At least he's divided the "staff" with bars every 7/4, and they seem accurate as far as I got following.



Piwin -> RE: Keeping the pulse (Jul. 31 2023 12:46:21)






Richard Jernigan -> RE: Keeping the pulse (Aug. 1 2023 1:47:01)

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Using the system or not for non Indian music will not be perceptible. He is simply admitting he used the system for ALL his music, not just shakti. Once you learned the rudiments it should be obvious how to apply it to any style.
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Count this:



RNJ



Ricardo -> RE: Keeping the pulse (Aug. 1 2023 17:02:28)

2/4 with several tempo changes and a couple of 6/8 over lays. The one spot with the band/piano you need to overlay the clave that “&2, 3-Ah, &…etc.” making a brief 4/4 section.



chester -> RE: Keeping the pulse (Aug. 2 2023 23:41:47)

Funny, I never met anyone who also likes (or even knows) that astronaut dogs band (introduced to me by spotify's recommendations).

The Maalouf album is great! Thanks for the links.


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ORIGINAL: Piwin







Piwin -> RE: Keeping the pulse (Nov. 14 2023 20:35:39)





Nothing tricky on that last one. Just love the groovy push from 5s.



Ricardo -> RE: Keeping the pulse (Nov. 16 2023 11:09:10)

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Nothing tricky on that last one. Just love the groovy push from 5s.


It makes me wonder if we ever become interstellar, if we will discover some alien race that had recently discovered autotune and be like “oh crap.”. [:(]



Piwin -> RE: Keeping the pulse (Nov. 17 2023 8:03:45)

[:D]



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