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Grisha -> RE: Javier Conde ripping up Entres (Aug. 29 2015 19:12:43)

I thought Juan Manuel Canizares was very good at improvising judging from his videos with Paco and Bandera. You can see Paco looking at him with admiration at times during his solos. I only saw him give that look when he played with McLaughlin.



Ricardo -> RE: Javier Conde ripping up Entres (Sep. 1 2015 12:20:02)

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ORIGINAL: Grisha

I thought Juan Manuel Canizares was very good at improvising judging from his videos with Paco and Bandera. You can see Paco looking at him with admiration at times during his solos. I only saw him give that look when he played with McLaughlin.


I think Cañizares inspired Paco because of his modern approach. After all I personally never got into his sound or style. When he plays with Paco it's very nice harmonies and such, but when they improvise I feel he doesn't keep up with Paco or Banderas interms of control of tone and speed. He often bends notes but they are always sharp pitchwise...as coming from electric school I think it is a lot nicer to fret a flat note and bend into a chord tone or whatever, but even still it sounds kindof silly on nylon.

I often forget about THIS guy's ridiculous speed on picados, mainly because in my mind he is the ultimate cante accompanist. A little crazy control wise but the expression and speed he always had was amazing. I clock him at 117-120 plus with these picados:

http://youtu.be/lO3BRotMufY

in case you all want to argue again that he isn't making 32nd notes ([;)]) here is a slower groovy version you can hear it more clearly how fast he is going on those same runs at 102 or so:

http://youtu.be/3b2uDrB9ggk



JohnWalshGuitar -> RE: Javier Conde ripping up Entres (Sep. 1 2015 14:37:33)

Cañizares is a legend as far as I'm concerned. I don't care about the technical aspect of it really. I just think his musical brain is phenomenal, his harmonic ideas, his originality. Few people sound like him and he does his own thing, not like a lot of the modern players who kind of sound a lot like each other(I still admire then hugely).
He is also a real studious person, always wanting to improve his knowledge and understanding of music.
Paco said before how he considered Canziares the best guitarist in Spain. I don't think it has anything to do with the technical aspect(which Canizares is a master of too IMO). More to do with his originality and creativity.
I suppose everyone is different but i love the purposefully sharp bends he does. It sounds odd, but then a lot of what he does sounds odd.
I'm learning his Zapateado now (se Alza la Luna). It is just spectacular what he did in that piece. It is a level of composition rarely reached among flamencos.
These are just my personal feelings, each to their own after all



Grisha -> RE: Javier Conde ripping up Entres (Sep. 1 2015 17:47:33)

John, I learned that zapateado a few months back. It's an incredible piece. So detailed, so fun to play. Have a good time with it!



JohnWalshGuitar -> RE: Javier Conde ripping up Entres (Sep. 1 2015 18:17:37)

Hey Grisha,
It is awesome but very difficult. I just love the harmony and ideas so much in it, I will play it until it is learned. I have it all memorised now. By the way, I used your video from your awesome concert when transcribing it to see was I mad or were the fingerings really so awkward...Turns out the fingerings ARE awkward. Also I must say to you, that performance was epic man!
I don't know how you did it live! Ole tus cojones! Eres un bicharraco!!!!!
My respect amigo!



mark74 -> RE: Javier Conde ripping up Entres (Sep. 3 2015 18:50:22)

'often forget about THIS guy's ridiculous speed on picados, mainly because in my mind he is the ultimate cante accompanist. A little crazy control wise but the expression and speed he always had was amazing. I clock him at 117-120 plus with these picados: '

I was just thinking the other day how after PdL he was possibly the best



mark74 -> RE: Javier Conde ripping up Entres (Sep. 3 2015 19:00:16)

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What you say is true. Picado envy. Even worse, perhaps, is when a prosthesis is used for picado.
When girls tell me picado doesnt matter I think they are liars



Manitas de Lata -> RE: Javier Conde ripping up Entres (Nov. 29 2023 15:28:37)

I follow Javier for quite some years , but 15 days ago i had the chance to see him live... (and his girlfriend Carmen) for free (but i would pay)in a small room.

Javier is very fast , great tecnique , great intonation in some notes , but cant show emotion in his playing in majority of the time.
A like some players at an orquestra that just perform, nothing more.

Cant like his Zambra Moura , because he rushes a lot with his ultra machine gun picado.
Yes its impressive , the speed , the execution of all the tecniques , but lacks emotion in majority of the time

Other plays were good , like the Guajiras that he played and a Buleria also very nice.

Hes a Flamenco Shreder



metalhead -> RE: Javier Conde ripping up Entres (Nov. 29 2023 16:14:45)

Composition is different from being technically sound. Many technically impressive guys who play guitars for decades don't compose at all, because it's a different skill set and it's the one part that talent in music plays a little role [;)]



Manitas de Lata -> RE: Javier Conde ripping up Entres (Nov. 29 2023 16:39:32)

yes , but im not talking about compose but feeling , in some classes that i had some years ago the teacher (great guy , great musician etc) allways told this , play with felling , you must feel.
didnt know how to do it , now im more confortable with that, the trick is to really really like the stuff..or to emulate that..
After that i started to analise that way... , i prefer personality even with flaws (gipsy flamenco is dirty not clean) played or sing , rather than a machine with no feeling.

but some people have both , they machines with lotta of personality

Saw Eduardo Isaac (almost for free) and it was mind blowing...



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