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Ramon Amira -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 20 2014 21:07:02)

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Ramon, did you get a name change recently?? How'd you do that? I'd like to add an ñ to my name............
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Yes, I changed from "Prominent Critic," which was actually just a little personal injoke with myself.
I was the classical and flamenco guitar critic for both the Los Angeles Times and the L.A. Herald-Examiner at the same time. One week I reviewed a concert on a Friday night for one of them, and on that Saturday night for the other, and by chance they both appeared on the same day in the Sunday papers.

I went to a party that Sunday night, and when I walked in one of my friends said jokingly, "Here comes the prominent critic," or something like that. As frequently happens, the monicker stuck, and from then on I couldn't get away from it.

So when I joined I just used it as sort of a personal joke. But I thought that was enough of that, so I changed it.

Ramon




Leñador -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 20 2014 21:27:41)

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Now you're a woodsman.

Nice, thanks Simon! I feel legit now! lol

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I went to a party that Sunday night, and when I walked in one of my friends said jokingly, "Here comes the prominent critic," or something like that. As frequently happens, the monicker stuck, and from then on I couldn't get away from it.

Yup, mine's an inside joke too. A lot of the guys I work with call me "El Leñador" 'cus I'm bigger then most of them and I've got a beard, either that or Keser, because for some reason Kasey is IMPOSSIBLE for Latinos to pronounce lol I've started using "Kasey, como claro que si." That seems to help a lil but they emphasize the sey. Kasey haha




El Burro Flamencuro -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 20 2014 22:04:22)

My Opinion is that: flamenco guitars naturally have a certain wetness to their sound(at least most do, some sound completely dry or woody though), that flamenco rasp/crispness...which varies between different guitars and different strings. IMO my Castillo has a good balance between wet and dry sounds, the wetness isn't overpowering and has a more crisp/ slight ringy tone. My friend's devoe is a completely different animal, every note sounds very meaty.... a different kind of wetness. But the devoe was also a negra, my castillo is a blanca. Even so, i think even a blanca devoe would sound fairly meaty too.

Buzz is a different subject all together. Which mostly comes from having a low action and using light-medium tension strings. I like to use high tension strings for the extra loudness/maybe volume? but then i don't get any buzz unless i fumble with my fretboard hand.




BarkellWH -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 20 2014 23:05:10)

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My Opinion is that: flamenco guitars naturally have a certain wetness to their sound(at least most do, some sound completely dry or woody though), that flamenco rasp/crispness...which varies between different guitars and different strings.


I'm not sure what you mean by "wetness" in flamenco guitars. To me it is that very raspiness, and in particular the crisp, percussive sound one finds in most Cypress/Spruce flamenco guitars, that I would characterize as "dry." In fact, I think that the "dry" sound of most flamenco guitars is one of the characteristics that differentiates them from classical guitars.

Cheers,

Bill




El Burro Flamencuro -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 20 2014 23:31:05)

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I'm not sure what you mean by "wetness" in flamenco guitars. To me it is that very raspiness, and in particular the crisp, percussive sound one finds in most Cypress/Spruce flamenco guitars, that I would characterize as "dry." In fact, I think that the "dry" sound of most flamenco guitars is one of the characteristics that differentiates them from classical guitars.

Cheers,

Bill


I use the term wetness as in any kind of alteration of the sound, one of those would actually be dry / woody haha. i should probably find a better word for wetness. To me the rasp is almost like a form of slight distortion, but in a very clean way, i think producers/ sound engineers call raw sound before they throw on effects and distortion is dry and then with the distortion/reverb it's wet. It's weird to me because flamenco guitars do sound very clean...with less sustain, but at the same time have that rasp and bright tone. So it's like you can hear every note even though there is a little bit of a brightness to the tone.

*even though there is a lot of brightness in the trebles and quite a lot of rasp in the basses.... generally




El Burro Flamencuro -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 20 2014 23:36:23)

I think a lot of people associate wetness with sustain/reverb. I guess i associate it with distortion and other things as well.




estebanana -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 21 2014 1:37:46)

Here are two headstocks.

One is used by Ruben Diaz on his so called "Barbero model" One is not- which one is a Barbero?

See what makes you thing you are entitled to FREE consultations over and over if you can't distinguish? And if you can distinguish, why do you not stick up for the guitarmakers here when we get attacked by little turds throwing Diaz in your faces?

You want it both ways, you want Free consultations and top level advice, but you don't l want to defend the real contributors to your knowledge from those who taunt and insult.

I appreciate you want to increase your knowledge and guitar aficion, but stick up for the guitar makers here in stead of letting little farts be adversarial. We Ricardo, Anders, myself and the other guys here try to give good honest FREE information and we get repaid by you guys with no loyalty to support us from stupid little turds?

Talk about distinguishing between a Panormo and Barbero and why Ruben is wrong and dishonest to call it a Barbero model. Then protect the guys that give you FREE information and we'll talk about raspiness.





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estebanana -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 21 2014 1:42:09)

Some of you guys sell guitars and we go out of our way to help you with problems adn we say nice thigs about models that undercut your prices and then you want more FREE information?

Should I include a few pints of my blood with my FREE consulting work?




Anders Eliasson -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 21 2014 7:24:06)

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Noone explaining on the difference between buzz and rasp, and on the measures taken by the builder to provide the latter?

When the action is low, the strings may rattle against the frets, especially on rasgueos. It gives a distinctive sound and I think this what most people mean by 'rasp' or 'rajo'.
But a buzz is an unpleasant sound, usually from one note or fret. It is usually caused by a single high fret. (although there can be many other causes)

That's my understanding anyway. Hope that helps.


That's not what rasp is - strings rattling against the frets is buzz. It's very hard to put into words what the sound of rasp is, but it's sort of like a bit of a growling sound from the belly of the guitar. It's the one single sound that distinguishes a flamenco guitar from a classical guitar, which never has rasp. A flamenco guitar can have rasp but not buzz, or can have both.

Ramon



I think I agree with Ramon. A good flamenco guitar has a capacity to slightly distort when you push it hard. And it doesnt come from the frets. It comes from the box. Its like when a good valve (hifi or guitar) amp slightly cut the high end of the tonal register. Thats rasp or rajo.
Its more present on lighter woods for backs and sides, so blancas rasp more than negras. And classica dont rasp or at least shouldnt do so.
This rasping does that especially long rasgueados become much more pleasant to listen to. The tones blend a lot better. Just like on a good valve amp compared to a transistor amp.
Fret buzz can be nice as well, if its controlable. Some like more than others and some strongly dislike it. But its not the same as rasp.
And..... what I just wrote is not something I just made up in my mind. I heard about that the first time some 12 - 13 years ago, when I was new here where I live.




krichards -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 21 2014 9:36:37)

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Rasp, strange word. It's fret noise.


I agree, and that's what I said in my post. But, Ramon disagrees. He uses 'rasp' to mean something else.

I'll go with the consensus......if there is one.




Ruphus -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 21 2014 9:57:31)

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ORIGINAL: El Burro Flamencuro

To me the rasp is almost like a form of slight distortion, .... So it's like you can hear every note even though there is a little bit of a brightness to the tone.


It is not necessary to say "even though", because HF can indeed be perceived much better than LF. From there it is only in accordance to hearing conditions that MF to HF helps with cutting through.

Similar with distortion. In audio engineering you like to add some fuzz when a sound needs definition and better localizing in the mix.
Accordingly the rasp and buzz discussed here indeed should be helpful to make a guitar heard in a juerga.



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ORIGINAL: Anders Eliasson

It comes from the box.


Must be why lowering the action of a classical guitar still won´t make it sound like a typical flamenca.
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ORIGINAL: Anders Eliasson
Its like when a good valve (hifi or guitar) amp slightly cut the high end of the tonal register. Thats rasp or rajo.


Naming valve distortion is always a good example. Only to point out a common stereotype among musicians, it shall be worth mentioning that solid state circuits can do everything those with fully integrated valves can. It only depends on the circuit and parts used ( making it just as large-scaled like tube builds).

Ruphus




estebanana -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 21 2014 13:15:22)

Ok guys, if flamenco guitars are doing distortion you tell me where you plug them in?

Do you have a Marshall stack in your garage and humbuckers in your Conde's?

Guitars are guitars, you play flamenco on the one that feels right. If you ask me, which you did not, a guitar you play classical music on would sound better with some growl in the core of the voice.

Rasp is strange word because in English, it has certain connotations that means it is more like metal on metal or finger nails on a chalkboard. Rasp is unpleasant.

Ok I'm not saying you are wrong for using that word, but guitar sound really boils down to semantics debates. Not everyone will agree a certain word covers the concept of a sound.

A guitar that is typically used for flamenco can have a core voice that is more narrow and less full and round in tone. And the degrees of color in that narrow spectrum of sound are what flamenco heads listen for. Like the way a goof complicated wine flavor breaks down over your tongue, a flamenco guitar has a first bite and an after taste. It has a way of breaking down in the ear. Why? Because the top is more loose side to side, the ribs thin, light, less mass.

A guitar that people call more flamenco shakes more internally, the whole instrument is looser, the tension of the strings can be felt. If you have ever gone fishing much you know heavier fishing poles with heavy line do not transmit the strike of the average fish as dramatically as a light pole with light line. A flamenco guitar is a lot like fishing for big fish with light tackle. It's like a sports car with a big engine and small quick maneuverable frame and turning base. It stops and starts fast and the engine growls because cylinders are really big in diameter and they pulsate your body when you flood them with gas.

The classical guitar is like your grandmas Lincoln Continental. Regal, sustain, 4000 lbs of marshmellow with a huge engine. Suspension that could ride an elephant. ( no poaching please) - You hit the gas and it sails to 90 or 100 miles an hour in under ten seconds and you hardly feel you're moving. Suicide style doors and your grandmas name custom embossed on the glove box lid at the dealership in 1963. And the Lincoln still goes like a Mother Fu...ker

Flamenco and classical guitars- two kinds of bad ass cars. No rasp, just purr. One purrs like a feral cat that in heat, one purrs like a pedigree Siamese. It's not that difficult to understand.




estebanana -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 21 2014 14:18:31)





Anders Eliasson -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 21 2014 15:26:48)

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Ok guys, if flamenco guitars are doing distortion you tell me where you plug them in?


Why this negative attitude all the time?

You have your ways of looking at things and others have theirs, just as I have mine. You use your words (and many of them). Others use other words, but I have a feeling we are talking about the same thing. The good flamenco guitar is not producing the same sound and doesnt work the way the good classical guitar does and the good flamenco guitar has a certain degree of uncontrolability. rasp, growl, distortion, whatever.

As I wrote, its not something I have made up. Its something I heard Spanish flamenco guitarists talk about more than a decade ago. You may like it or not. I didn´t make it up.




Ramon Amira -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 21 2014 15:31:48)

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Rasp, strange word. It's fret noise.



I have used the word "rasp" - and have heard it used by others in the world of professional flamenco - for thirty five years. So this is not a new word as used here. A cursory search took me exactly one minute to find the following blurb about a Marcelo Barbero flamenco guitar. This is from Zavaletas Guitars.

"Marcelo Barbero (1904-1956) was trained by José Ramirez II. When Santos Hernandez died in 1943, his widow asked Marcelo to complete some guitars that Santos left unfinished. Although Santos had been very secretive, Barbero was equally astute-- and the flamenco guitars he built after this are magical. This guitar offers everything professional players demand in a fine flamenco guitar: its trebles sing, its basses are crisp. It projects and has great power, A TRUE FLAMENCO RASP, and notes that sizzle. It is set up perfectly--with a low, fast action that makes for great playability."

You said of the word "rasp" - "Rasp, strange word. It's fret noise." I will repeat, and Anders agrees, it is not fret noise. It's a unique sound that emanates from some flamenco guitars, more often a blanca, that can't be defined in words, but is immediately identifiable.

Ramon




SephardRick -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 21 2014 16:05:12)

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Ok I'm not saying you are wrong for using that word, but guitar sound really boils down to semantics debates. Not everyone will agree a certain word covers the concept of a sound


Steve,

No question - You, Anders, Tom, and all the other constructors are the true authorities. You know about the mechanics and engineering of acoustic guitars. We don't know what you know.


We are attempting to put in words what we "think" we know. It can be frustrating to hear. I am sure it is to Tom too. Interesting how he keeps a lid on a 55-gallon drum of Texas size "whoop-ass" tolerating our misconceptions.




rojarosguitar -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 21 2014 22:15:19)

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ORIGINAL: rojarosguitar

Thanks for your thoughts about 'rasp'.

Just to make sure: I always thought the rasp is rather a sign of a real flamenco top that gives more non-linear response (physically speaking) which is more like an overdrive distortion of an amp (e.g. electric guitar amp that is driven hard).

Everything else I subsumed as all kinds of buzzes - buzzes that are integrated into the note and buzzes that are disconnected from the note (as in my OT)...

So maybe I used the word improperly ??? Or is there also this overdrive aspect in the sound? I believe I hear it in good flamencas ...


I'm guilty as pleaded, because I brought the word 'distortion' into play (though nobody seems to have related to this post ... LOL)

In the end it doesn't matter how we call something, because the sound is the sound that sounds and can be heard, whatever we call this quality. Being physicist I was curious whether this might be the decisive difference between classical and flamenco guitars: the more linear response of classical versus a more non-linear of flamencas. That is what I believe to hear, but I don't have the experimental equipment to prove it.

I certainly didn't want to ask any of the luthiers here to divulge their secrets of how they achieve what they achieve, I'd be fully satisfied with a clear distinction between 'buzz' as the interaction of strings with frets as opposed to 'rasp' (or however you want to call it) as the result of a non-linear response of the (mainly) top to the driving force of the strings.

A mechanical picture would be: classical guitar being a harder spring driven well within its linearity range whereas flamenco guitar being a softer string driven at the edge of its linearity range where it already starts to show non-linear behavior.

Never mind, I think I'm slowly getting these things sorted...




estebanana -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 22 2014 0:35:51)

Words can change meaning slightly or radically every few generations and 'rasp' sounds nasty to me. I've heard it before but I simply reject in favor of my own word selection to describe sound. Language changes and describing sounds with words is very abstract.


Full Definition of RASP

transitive verb
1
: to rub with something rough; specifically : to abrade with a rasp
2
: to grate upon : irritate
3
: to utter in a raspy tone
intransitive verb
1
: scrape
2
: to produce a grating sound
— rasp·er noun
— rasp·ing·ly adverb
See rasp defined for English-language learners »
See rasp defined for kids »
Examples of RASP

“Let go of my arm,” she rasped.
The metal boxes rasped as they were dragged across the floor.
Origin of RASP

Middle English, from Anglo-French *rasper, of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German raspōn to scrape together
First Known Use: 14th century




estebanana -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 22 2014 0:46:38)

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You use your words (and many of them). Others use other words, but I have a feeling we are talking about the same thing. The good flamenco guitar is not producing the same sound and doesnt work the way the good classical guitar does and the good flamenco guitar has a certain degree of uncontrolability. rasp, growl, distortion, whatever.


We are talking about the same thing, the voice of a flamenco guitar that is intrinsically, gruff, growly *raspy* or any other verb you want to apply.

However the actual meaning of rasp is to rub two thing together or one against another to make a sound, usually irritating. The fundamental voice of a guitar remains in place regardless of whether the strings are rasping on the frets. If the strings are lifted high enough they will not touch the frets , but the voice will still have 'distortion'.

The reason why is the voice or distortion is built into the guitar with structure; the rasp is a variable factor according to how high or low the strings are on the frets.

So we Anders talking about the same thing, I agree. But far be it from me to change the definition of a word to describe sound if someone has used it to write advertising copy. We know advertising copy is the final literary decider.

When an adman speaks you better listen, it's George Bush saying "I'm the decider, I decide." The adman final word on words.....

Anders, I'm not negative, I'm sarcastic. I use raspy sarcasm.




Ramon Amira -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 22 2014 4:22:37)

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We are talking about the same thing, the voice of a flamenco guitar that is intrinsically, gruff, growly *raspy* or any other verb you want to apply.


Well, as long as we're discussing language usage, it should be pointed out that "gruff" - "growly" - and "raspy" are not verbs, they're adjectives. But I'm sure you know that.

More importantly, what you say here is not the case with the word "rasp," and its usage with respect to a flamenco guitar.

" But far be it from me to change the definition of a word to describe sound if someone has used it to write advertising copy. We know advertising copy is the final literary decider."

This is an allusion to the ad copy I posted from Zavaletas about the Barbero, which used the word "rasp" to describe the sound of the Barbero guitar. However, there is no evidence that this usage of "rasp" originated in the world of advertising. Language does not evolve by fiat. There isn't a group of men sitting in a little secret room somewhere, compiling a list of words that they will then proclaim have new meanings.

It's the opposite. Language evolves through usage. Over time, usage changes. With respect to "rasp," its meaning has evolved to include its use to describe a certain sound made by a flamenco guitar. The ad merely incorporated what was already common usage within the world of flamenco for a long time.

Ramon




estebanana -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 22 2014 5:56:01)

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Well, as long as we're discussing language usage, it should be pointed out that "gruff" - "growly" - and "raspy" are not verbs, they're adjectives. But I'm sure you know that.



More importantly, what you say here is not the case with the word "rasp," and its usage with respect to a flamenco guitar.

" But far be it from me to change the definition of a word to describe sound if someone has used it to write advertising copy. We know advertising copy is the final literary decider."



ADVISORY: This post contains ironic humor and sarcastic quips.

I did not make it clear enough that I was being sarcastic. When I said: We know ad copy is the final judge on the definition of a word - I was being sarcastic. I was implying the exact opposite.

I was saying language directed by corporations, advertizing etc. often influence the use of a word; or a subculture like flamenco can adopt a word and change its meaning in a specific context. I've gone into Starbucks coffee and asked for a medium coffee, and clerk says you mean Grande'? And I say yes a medium. Why? because I don't like to use the language that Starbucks corporation wants me to use. Eventually maybe all coffees may be called Grande's, but until then I can still ask for a small, medium or large.

And as you say the word 'rasp' can be used to describe a flamenco guitar, but lets be clear about what rasp really means. If in NY you use the word rasp (verb) to describe flamenco guitar core voice then you should keep on doing that.

Rasp away at those axes. Maybe someday all flamenco guitars will be called Rasps:

Audience- "Hey man you totally shred on that rasp."

Player- "Cool dude thank you I try"

A. - "So Dude, where did get that bad ass rasp? and what kind of rasp is it?"

P. " I bought this rasp in Sevilla at the Guiri Flamenco Mart, it's Conde' rasp. "

A. - " Right on man, I love orange rasps. Some guys hate them, but those guys that hate Conde' orange raps are idiots. Any jerk who does not like orange rasps has adark closed mentality, like Dick Cheney. I would play an orange rasp like that any day. "

P- "Yeah , guys that bag on orange Conde rasps are sure dumb. It reminds me of the old farts that still call rasps 'guitars'. HA HA WTF? guitar? what a stupid word."

A- "Cool brother, rasp on."

P - "Fo shizzle- rasp on, rasp off, like Mr. Miyagi used to say."

A- "Ok later master rasper."



Not everyone will agree rasp is a positive word to describe a guitar. To me and others rasp has pejorative connotations and there is nothing wrong with using a word to mean its dictionary definition.

So in the the end it's tomaayto- tomahhto- You say rasp, and I say rasp, but yours means good and mine means annoying.

If you'll excuse me I need to go Xerox something.




Anders Eliasson -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 22 2014 6:50:34)

Stephen, your quest of making everyone use words the way you want them to be used is like Napoleon and Waterloo.

And this thread has turned into intellectual semantic bla bla.

I´m out. Mainly because its not my language. So may you all rasp in peace.[8D]




Ruphus -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 22 2014 9:19:54)

Hi Ramon,

To my understanding it should be an adverb. ( It is not an object that is raspy, but it is raspy sounding.)
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The contemporary German word for this tool is "Raspel" and both the sound of grating as well as the fuzzy surface that it produces ( analog to a waveform of distorted signal ) appear suiting well to me. But as foreigner to the language my linguistic take is rather arbitrary anyway.

Ruphus




Escribano -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 22 2014 9:38:45)

Raspingly would be in an adverb in my book. Raspy would be an adjective. [8|]




Ruphus -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 22 2014 9:45:29)

>hides away<




Escribano -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 22 2014 9:55:36)

My understanding of an adverb is the conjugation of a verb (doing something) and an adjective (how it is done, what it looks like, how it sounds etc.) e.g. the guitar is raspingly flamenco.




Ruphus -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 22 2014 10:04:25)

Absolutely agreed. One relating to characteristics of objects / nouns, the other to characteristics of action / verbs.
And I was definitly mistaking above.

What I meant with hiding away was doing so of shame. ( I want a blushing icon! [:D])

Ruphus




Escribano -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 22 2014 10:12:05)

I got the hiding away thing, just wanted to explain my thinking [:D]




estebanana -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 22 2014 12:14:58)

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Stephen, your quest of making everyone use words the way you want them to be used is like Napoleon and Waterloo.

And this thread has turned into intellectual semantic bla bla.

I´m out. Mainly because its not my language. So may you all rasp in peace.


It's actually the other way around Anders, Ramon is saying we need to use his New York definition of rasp and I'm saying you can rasp any way you want to rasp.

See the punch line is, if I have to explain everything, I said I don't like corporations forming language for us that encourages us to be good mindless and complicit consumers.

Then at the end I say, I need to go make Xeroxes. See this is irony. Irony is funny if it is self deprecating. I made fun of myself.

________

Anyway, onto raspingly-

I think raspingly is a good word, but I would say it borders on being gerund. If you were to say "His toque was rasping!" Then also be able to say "The guitar is rasping." then we have a word which I believe may qualify as a gerund.

Another gerund related to guitar making is 'lining'. "The guitar has linings." or "I am doing linings around the ribs right now."

http://www.chompchomp.com/terms/gerund.htm

Now raspingly, is that a gerund? It's close.

Is there a Grammarian in the house?

[:D][:D]




Ricardo -> RE: Flamenco guitar - how much buzz is desirable, how much tolerable? (May 22 2014 13:58:34)

Bass strings buzz, treble strings snap. A bit of snap is required in the trebs for rasgueado mainly. No buzz is required for the basses. A little is acceptable but too much is annoying. Too much snap in the trebs also not good as the guitar "frets out" and sounds like a banjo. N. Ricardo had that sound often, I would say it is not desirable. Solo playing needs less buzz or snap, the solo rhythm playing requires more than less. Pretty simple. Early PDL recordings only have the buzz or snap when he plays very hard. Some live videos you can clearly see some of his guitars had too much buzz, others just right. And even the same guitar might be different...I think due to humidity changes or string tension, but perhaps he was messing with the saddle too.




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