solea1 -> RE: Anyone got old Fosforito LP's and/or info? (May 4 2014 5:46:52)
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Hi, Mark -- I started making a flamenco discography in 1960, mostly by going into record stores and transcribing information from the jackets. I ended up with nearly 3000 pages, covering flamenco records from the first-ever two LP's (a Carlos Montoya LP and a Carmen Amaya LP, both American and released in 1950) to virtually all the recordings made anywhere up to 2003. (I call it "Flamenco Recordings - 1950-2000" because I figured some material recorded in 2000 might not have been released until 2003. After that time, everybody with fifty bucks could make his or her own private flamenco CD, so it seemed pointless to try and find them all; besides, everything after that appeared somewhere on the internet.) Here's the Belter LP you wondered about: [caf/512][st][am]5. w/Paco de Lucia Belter 22.360 1969 [bne]˚Belter 91.360 1970 Fand "Dejar de amarte"; Mart "No siento que este la fragua"; Liviana "Rabiando estoy por verte"; Sig "Cuando yo me muera"; Mal del Canario "En la pared"; Cart "Pastora divina";/ Gran "Ya no te quiero"; Taranto de Almeria "Parezco otro hombre"; Tangos de Cadiz "Campanitas de oro y plata"; Aleg "A Cadiz novia del sur"; Bul de Cadiz "Plazuela del Mediterraneo"; Sol de Cadiz "Lo que yo estoy padeciendo" Here's the Olimpo or Olympo LP (it was also released as a Sombrero cassette): [caf/1759]**12. Fosforito [con Juanito Valderrama y Pepe Pinto] w/Manolo Carmona, Juan Carmona “Habichuela”, Ramon de Algeciras y Juan Maya "Marote" Olympo SL-2028 1978 √ ˚Sombrero S 1047 1980 La Cana (F., J.V. y P.P.); Caracoles "Manuela Reyes"; Fand de H. "Que tu me hayas olvidado"; Sol "No te des por ofendida"; "Carretera del Brillante" (Sol -Aleg - Fand de H.); Jaberas "Libre para quererte"; Fand "Cantan los tres"; Mart "Martinete del Cafe del Burrero" (P.P., J.V. y F.) Now: Here is all the info I have on all of Fosforito's 45's, the ones with Paco that you asked about, plus all the others, in the random order in which I encountered them over the years - you should find some or all of the four EP's you asked about. FOSFORITO – EP’S FOSFORITO [caf/2-136]1. w/V. Araceli Philips 421 204 PE 1958 Cantina "Toita el agua del mar"; Sol "Que nadie se llame a engano"; Mal y Verdiales "Enfermo de amores"; Cana [caf/2-210]2. w/V. Araceli Philips 421 205 PE 1958 Sig "Hermano mio"; Fand "Todavia yo la quiero"; Livianas "De canela fina"; Serranas "Una ventera" [caf/2-01]3. w/V. Araceli Philips 421 206 PE 1958 Fand de H. "De tanto por ti llorar"; Sol "Soy lo mismo que el metal"; Polo; Mal "Lo que mi corazon siente" [caf/2-754]4. w/Juan Serrano y A. Velez Philips 421 216 PE 1959 Caracoles (J.S.); Fand de Lucena, Zangano y Verdial (A.V.); Aleg "Llegando a Cordoba" (J.S.); Sol "De noche llorando" (J.S.) [caf/2-1947]5. w/Juan Serrano y A. Velez Philips 421 217 PE 1959 Taranto de Almeria; Javera [Jabera]; Fand; Ritmos de Huelva 6. w/_____ Philips 436 314 _____ _____ 7. w/Ramon de Algeciras y Juan Carmona, Juan Maya “Marote”, A. Velez Belter 51.118 _____ _____ [caf/2-1845][al]8. w/Ramon de Algeciras, Manolo Carmona, Juan Carmona "El Habichuela", Juan Maya "Marote" y Alberto Velez Belter 51.188 1965 Fand "Creyeron que tu eras bueno"; Fand "Lucena y Levante"; Fand "Gitano de fragua"; Fand "Barco sin guia" [al]9. w/Juan Carmona "El Habichuela", Juan Maya "Marote" y Alberto Velez _____ _____ _____ Caracoles "Manuela Reyes"; Petenera "A mimbre y canela"; Cantina "Senora y duena"; Taranto "Por tus mentiras" [bne][al]10. w/Paco de Lucia Belter 52.190 1968 Sol "No te des por ofendida"; Verdiales "En blanquear tu facha"; Fand "Si alguna vez existio"; Minera "Me voy pa la mina sola" [al]11. w/Paco de Lucia Belter 52.361 1970 Fand "Dejar de amarte"; Mal de La Trini "Tu querer es solo mio"; Aleg "A Cadiz novia del sur"; Gran "Ya no te quiero" [al]12. w/Paco de Lucia Belter 52.365 1970 Fand "Razon del ser"; Tarantos de Almeria "Parezco otro hombre"; Bul de Cadiz "Plazuela del Mentidero"; "Rabiando estoy por verte" [al]13. Villancicos Flamencos w/Paco de Lucia Belter 52.375 1970 [52.275?] Villancico Flamenco "Divino Enmanuel"; Villancico Flamenco "El nino de Dios"; Villancico Flamenco "La noche mas alba"; Villancico Flamenco "El nino tiembla de frio" 14. w/_____ Belter 51.181 _____ "Ole flamenca"; "Se abre la tierra"; "Vengo de los montes"; "Fiesta en Cadiz" [caf/2-073]15. w/Juan Carmona [Habichuela] Belter 51.184 _____ _____ "Manuela Reyes"; _____ [caf/2-730]16. Cancionero de Oro w/Juan [Carmona] Habichuela Belter 01-151 1972 _____ [caf/2-731]17. w/Juan [Carmona] Habichuela Belter 08-406 1974 _____ "Clavel mananero"; _____ [caf/2-1844][caf/2-753]18. w/Juan [Carmona] Habichuela Belter 51.192 1965 _____ "Grande interes"; _____ “Libre para quererte”; _____ [bne][caf/2-734][caf/2-729]19. w/Juan Carmona “Habichuela”, Juan Maya “Marote”, Alberto Velez, Paco de Lucia Belter 07.933 1971 Tango - Rumba "Ole flamenca";/ Zangano de Puente Genil “Tierra donde yo he nacio” [caf/2-727]20. w/Paco de Lucia Belter 9.004 1968 _____ "Me puse a beber un dia"; _____ [caf/2-1946]21. Saetas Belter 52.384 1971 1970 Saeta por Carceleras “Por palio la luna llena”; Saeta por Sig “A Jesus Nazareno”; Saeta “Arde el pueblo en hermosura”; Saeta Antigua de Puente Genil “Eres Virgen mas bonita” 22. w/_____ Belter 52.426 1972 Fand del Cerro; Fand de H.; Fand de Valverde; Fand de Lucena; Fand Personales [caf/2-1945]23. w/Paco de Lucia Belter 52.193 1968 “Estas haciendo que me duela”; _____ [bne]24. Cancionero de Oro w/Juan Carmona “Habichuela”, Juan Maya “Marote” y Alberto Velez y Paco de Lucia Belter 01-119 1971 Cantinas “Senora y duena” (w/J.C. “H.”, J.M. “M.” y A.V.); Fand de H. “Que tu me hayas olvidado” (w/Paco de Lucia) [bne]25. w/Paco de Lucia Belter 08-196 1972 Verdiales “Si estaba loco por ti”;/ Bul de Cadiz “Nunca te he mentido” [bne]26 w/Juan Carmona “Habichuela” Belter 08-285 1973 Tangos flamencos “Libre quiero ser”; Taranto “Intentare lograr” [bne]27. w/Juan Carmona “Habichuela” Belter 08-432 1974 Sol “No me dejas ni mirarte” Fand “Rescoldo de carino” [bne]28. w/Juan Carmona “Habichuela” Belter 08-339 1974 Farruca “Baila Malena”; Cart Grande “Lo nuestro” [bne]29. w/Juan Carmona “Habichuela” Belter 08-406 1974 Aleg “Clavel mananero”; Bamberas “Desde que te conoci” [bne]30. w/Juan Carmona “Habichuela” y Pepe Habichuela Belter 08-549 1975 Bul “Gitana mia”; Tangos de Jerez “No me pidas mas” I also have sections of LP's/Cassettes and CD's, of course, with separate "Anthology" segments for both groups. Virtually all the material from the EP's will appear in those other formats, of course. If you want that information -- virtually everything by Fosforito for a half-century -- let me know. I'll send it in this manner or, if those 14 total pages are too bulky, let me know if there's a more appropriate way. (Again, I have this kind of info about every flamenco recording issued everywhere -- well, a few are inevitably missing, but not a heck of a lot. I didn't know how to make a data base when i started -- maybe there was no such thing yet -- so everything is just part of a massive but searchable document. I can't push a button and get an automatic printout of everything that has both Fosforito and Paco, for example. I could have taken the time to isolate them, since it's doable, but there's a certain value in having the comprehensive listing, and picking out the info you want..) The discography itself doesn't include 78's, but I do have a very large database of 78's as well -- many of which were later issued on LP's or Cassette or CD's. Good luck, Brook
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