Ruphus -> RE: "Which guitar do I play today???" (Apr. 23 2013 13:26:30)
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ORIGINAL: Arash Don't take the metronome thing too seriously. I don't believe in all that geographical/genetic/whatever disposition (or disadvantage) nonsence. Just Don't know how else to react to the "weird" theories about flamenco i was forced to read in this thread. Surroundings and influences in childhood are important. I agree. I am pretty sure if Eskimos would take an african baby and raise it in north pole, he wouldn't be able to move his body to the most simple african rythm later, if he shouldn't practice it hard. And i believe if Gypsies would raise an eskimo baby and let him learn guitar, he could be as good as any other spanish guitarist. No disadvantage. And as for iranian music (not important here but since you mentioned it): we have iranian music and we have iranian "music". Traditional iranian music with all the complexity, modes, traditional instruments, etc. and the iranian bullcrap which you mostly see in american persian tv channels produced for pubescent girls, bitter widows and insecure boys who pluck their eyebrows and are unsure if they should become totally gay or just a little bit (no offence to gays, you know what i mean). Since most people in Iran had and have the chance to hear world music just like anybody else and in addition their own music, the rest is simply a choice. If i would compare the number of young people playing flamenco guitar in Iran to let say Germany, i would say its 100 times higher. They are crazy for it, Even though its much more difficult for them to get a flamenco guitar like here and even though the enviroment in which they live is "unfriendly" towards music (and joy in general). For instance they can't even play with dancers. Agreed with everything you said, except of one point which is that I personally don´t see the traditional music as all too demanding either. This is based on what I have heard of it, which very likely didn´t include all of the best of it. ( Just what you get to hear when Joe Somebody puts on traditional records, or worse: What you gett presented in the national media there, which is unbearably lame stuff.) So, by what I have auditioned, apart of only a few pieces, the most of it is scarce of developing structure, developing rhythm and of variety. Basically a small number of patterns over which is being improvised, with notes few in numbers, rather exchangable and always tremolo. ( <- I would say a total overuse of a stylistic means. And I would add: Why the hell no progress and expansion in any way since thousands of years?!) In my personal experience it is the most dull, sadest and sleepy style of the orientals, in monotony only beaten by Iranian Kurdish music which seems basically all one song going "deng dereng deng derengdeng deng deng ||". Of the demanding traditional pieces there are some of which one could think that is where rock came from ( if it weren´t from the Anglo-Saxon-Afrrican roots), but of those I have come to hear maybe a handful in decades, and seeing my empirics average I venture to assume that there actually exists just a very tiny reservoir of versatile and complex stuff. - If you are certain that there exists a wide store of rich traditional music, please be so kind to let me know names of albums and I´ll try to get a hand on them and see. Thank you, Ruphus
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