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z6 -> RE: Media Luna (Sep. 18 2013 16:05:31)
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But how seamless it was. The Conde conundrum, plus an online forum, demonstrates a fundamental truth about time, and orange, breathy, built by robots, guitars.
I just got me a 'real' Conde; a Ricardo Sanchis Carpio.
I wanted a 'good' guitar cause I already have a great one. So, how does one increase the possibility of getting a 'good' Conde? By buying one built by Mr. Conde, of course. The bass may be more pronounced, the middle less so, I don't know, but it's a little Tardis that'll give you a real one at a real price.
The great builders are not better than the luthiers here. Our senses and our memories become fogged by status and mad prices.
Modern builders are kick-a s s but the market for originals is so tiny.
Man, I'm scared to ask this Estebaby, and feel free to ignore me, but you are so full of ideas and passion, couldn't you take Senior Conde as a master (for just a while) and truly express what this guy's design is about?
I mean, would it be possible (I'm only asking about the possibility, your business is yours) for you to join the gap between the original and the present day?
I'm not suggesting by any means that your guitars are inferior to any Conde anywhere.
But do you think people would 'know' if you (reproduced) the best Conde over and over?
Would a reduction then be possible using computer-aided assembly? My luthier guitar has a fabulous neck design that the guy can knock out very easily, after a serious cash and skullwork investment, (it's seven pieces: three ebony strips, but it's the feel of it that I love.)
Good guitars are enough for flamenco, I think. But in classical guitar luthery they seem to think nothing of making replicas, and nobody seems to think of those guitars as copies. And they have a lot of people charging into the 'new technologies', so they play it both ways, but few, if any, attempt the 'dynasty' and instead they covet and nurture long waiting lists.
It's all about the feel. You guys can reduce or categorize that 'feel' further, into pulsation or action or whatever but we all know, as players, that it's the feel of a flamenco that makes it flamenco.
But the feel includes all the crazy calculations you luthiers have to make (many so complex that only your 'feel' will do). (And feel includes aspects of the sound, as it is a whole system, but it's the response, the potential, the ease of a flamenco that is the real differentiator.)
I ask these things because many years ago a guitar student of mine, a guy from a very rough background in East London, revealed to me that he was an artist. He could draw things on a blackboard dusted with chalk with his fingers. And I mean he used both hands, multiple fingers, two or three at a time and an effing masterpiece would emerge. He had, in my opinion and I'm no expert but I know I'm right; perfect perspective.
I got all teachery and suggested art school. He gave me a look and opened a photo album. He had copied all the great masters. He showed me a 'Turner' and said. "I think it's better than the original." And it was said with complete innocence; he was not being arrogant. Then he said "I did it before I saw the original. I got the colour wrong." (And I remember clearly he used the singular 'colour'.)
It seems that getting these things (flamenco guitars) sold is hard unless you build a Conde.
If Conde can't build Condes why don't you? You're right about their misrepresentation in the market so why not put things right?
I do not believe flamencos are conservative. If you give them the thing that started the dynasty they would 'feel' it. Or are we really all just a herd, influenced by price and accumulated kudos?
Just a very very very good flamenco guitar?
If it were just you and him? (As expressed by all the luthier voodoo you can infer from the end product?)
Then your grandkids could go around crushing the opposition with each orangier model?
Yes. In real life people would say "it's only a copy", I expect.
But maybe not. Consistency is everything.
The Conde company(ies) seem to me to have pushed too hard. They are creating a massive reality gap with their prices.
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