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Sr. Martins -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 0:21:25)
Take it easy man.. dont go boning everything that doesnt move [;)]

GuitarVlog -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 0:32:20)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rui Martins Take it easy man.. dont go boning everything that doesnt move [;)] Too late. I've already done my two Yamahas, my Prudencio Saez negra (They used Tusq on a $1200 guitar?) and my OM. [:D][:D][:D] That's what happens when you get decent tools and bulk-discounted components.

BarkellWH -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 1:51:45)
quote: Yeah, I probably will just bone the saddle... I play with and without capo, so, the I will probably NOT bone!!! Hey, Kalo, I am assuming that english is not your first language. Nevertheless, one can either interpret the above lines as something to do with the guitar, or something to do with sexual activity. Forgive me, but I could not help myself. Cheers, Bill

estebanana -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 2:50:42)
In my opinion one should always bone the saddle. Boning out of the saddle can get the nut too low.

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Kalo -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 4:22:29)
Come down guys, I mis communicated what I was trying to say [;)][8D] But, look what I noticed on the top! It looks like a crack....

Sr. Martins -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 12:13:33)
Braces might hurt the bone. The only exception is when we're talking about giving bone to the head because we put the nuts right where the neck begins.

Sr. Martins -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 12:17:18)
@Kalo Dont bone that crack man, thats not the answer for everything in life. Return the guitar for a proper inflatable sex doll or another guitar[;)]

Kalo -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 13:37:12)
quote: Dont bone that crack man, thats not the answer for everything in life. Return the guitar for a proper inflatable sex doll or another guitar Forget about boning[:D][8D] It looks cracked, correct??? I don't know how I didn't notice it from the start.... I guess, I will have to return it [8\|] Kalo

Sr. Martins -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 14:09:02)
Trade it for a guitar with an e-bone-y fretboard [;)]

mezzo -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 14:32:04)
quote: It looks cracked, correct??? I don't think it's a crack. Pay attention to the reflections on the top. If lets say a bright reflection remains linear while crossing that mark, it's ok. If it breaks from that linearity, then something is going wrong. Also pass your finger over it, if there's something wrong you'll feel it.

Sr. Martins -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 14:38:22)
Why didnt I think of that? You should totally finger that crack! [8D]

Kalo -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 15:19:38)
quote: I don't think it's a crack. Pay attention to the reflections on the top. If lets say a bright reflection remains linear while crossing that mark, it's ok. If it breaks from that linearity, then something is going wrong. Also pass your finger over it, if there's something wrong you'll feel it. Well, i did pass my finger and it doesn't feel as smooth...I am going to take it to my luthier today... quote: Why didnt I think of that? You should totally finger that crack! Rui, You know I can take a joke and I have a pretty good sense of humor! When, typing, I didn't read my post and it came out WRONG!!!!! Everyone had their laugh and wise cracks.. I have to admit it was funny and I must say a little embrassing for me! But your comments are getting old [;)] Kalo

Sr. Martins -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 15:28:46)
Wise cracks... [:-] Ahaha... I was just looking for the possible variations on a theme, it wasnt about laughing at your mistake. The guitar is such a sexy instrument, there's no escape even if you keep the plastic parts.

GuitarVlog -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 15:41:25)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kalo Well, i did pass my finger and it doesn't feel as smooth...I am going to take it to my luthier today... See if your luthier or technician agrees that it is a crack. It's worth mentioning that cracks in the wood can result from low humidity. It's a danger that occurs more often in Fall and Winter months because folks will turn on the heaters and dry-up the air in a home. Yamahas are rather sturdy instruments but they can suffer humidity effects like any other guitar. I keep all my guitars on wall hangers and so I have two gauges on opposite sides of the room that monitor humidity. A small room humidifier is also in one corner of the room. I try to keep my room's relative humidity between 40-45%. Controlling humidity is easier (and probably cheaper) when you keep your instrument in a case. I just like to have my instruments within an arm's grasp whenever inspiration strikes me.

Kalo -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 15:54:15)
quote: See if your luthier or technician agrees that it is a crack. It's worth mentioning that cracks in the wood can result from low humidity. It's a danger that occurs more often in Fall and Winter months because folks will turn on the heaters and dry-up the air in a home. Yamahas are rather sturdy instruments but they can suffer humidity effects like any other guitar. I keep all my guitars on wall hangers and so I have two gauges on opposite sides of the room that monitor humidity. A small room humidifier is also in one corner of the room. I try to keep my room's relative humidity between 40-45%. Controlling humidity is easier (and probably cheaper) when you keep your instrument in a case. I just like to have my instruments within an arm's grasp whenever inspiration strikes me. Thanks Guitar Vlog!!! The guitar was shipped from New York all the way to Arizona...Different weather climate for sure!!! It was also shipped without a case! Well, if it is a crack, I can return! Kalo

Sr. Martins -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 16:09:57)
Hmm.. I have a guitar on its way from Valencia. From what Ive checked, the relative humidity over there is about the same that it is over here but... Maybe it is a good idea to wait a few days before applying the golpeador in case the guitar cracks...?

GuitarVlog -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 16:12:56)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kalo The guitar was shipped from New York all the way to Arizona...Different weather climate for sure!!! A luthier in Arizona once told me a story of how a classical guitar imploded in his living room one summer due to the dry air. He and his friend heard a loud bang. They rushed into the room and found the guitar, which had been left on a stand, folded into itself.

Kalo -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 16:26:51)
quote: A luthier in Arizona once told me a story of how a classical guitar imploded in his living room one summer due to the dry air. He and his friend heard a loud bang. They rushed into the room and found the guitar, which had been left on a stand, folded into itself. I believe it! In Arizona it can get up to 115 degree in the summer time!!! During the Summer time it feels like a dry oven!!! Right now we are experiencing 48 degrees at night and 70 degrees in day time... quote: Hmm.. I have a guitar on its way from Valencia. From what Ive checked, the relative humidity over there is about the same that it is over here but... Maybe it is a good idea to wait a few days before applying the golpeador in case the guitar cracks...? Hmmm, I don't know!! If the weather is the same, I don't think you would have a problem.. I am just curious why your guitar doesn't have a golpeador installed already?? Is it a classical guitar? Kalo

Sr. Martins -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 16:39:31)
Its the Alhambra 4F model. It comes with the golpeador but I bought it separately. Its only 5€ more and I get the chance to cut it and apply it. Maybe they would charge 60€ more if it already came with one, at least Iam aware of stores that do that and they even give the guitars a new model name "xFG", the G stands for Golpeador [8D]

Kalo -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 17:00:57)
quote: Its the Alhambra 4F model. It comes with the golpeador but I bought it separately. Its only 5€ more and I get the chance to cut it and apply it. Maybe they would charge 60€ more if it already came with one, at least Iam aware of stores that do that and they even give the guitars a new model name "xFG", the G stands for Golpeador Alhambra is a decent guitar!!! I wish I could of tried one! GC doesn't have any to try [8\|] They only have Cordoba and the Yamaha CG172 matted finish... I think Alhambra also has a D shape neck correct???? Well, let us know how you like the guitar when it arrives! Kalo

Sr. Martins -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 17:11:35)
To me the greatest advantage over the yamaha is the ebony fretboard, I really hate rosewood fingerboards in any kind of instrument, its such a "thirsty" wood.. looks and feels like crap too... The other thing is consistency.. they know what they're doing. The 4F model was designed by Luis Julia if Iam not mistaken, he is now with Paco Castillo guitars. The 3 year warranty is also a good thing and Pilar always answers any questions you might have. You might want to get a refund on your guitar and check the Alhambras, Ive only played extensively their 7P and 7C models but it was enough for me to trust that the 4F will be a solid guitar for flamenco practice. I also thought about Francisco Bros. but after some research I got the feeling that they're a bit "shady".. I might be wrong but afterall I dont want to have second thoughts on the back of my head, all I want is a solid quality instrument to bang on without getting into luthier made guitars. Check Elie's videos with the 4F: http://www.youtube.com/user/GuitarristaAD

Sr. Martins -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 17:17:34)
Man, you were quick.. http://www.guitarcenter.com/In-Store-Used-USED-YAMAHA-CG171SF-CLASSICAL-GUITAR-108374588-i2881534.gc jajaja [:D]

Sr. Martins -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 17:25:21)
I checked some USD prices and it seems to be around $600. How much did you pay for the yamaha?

Kalo -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 17:28:59)
quote: Man, you were quick.. http://www.guitarcenter.com/In-Store-Used-USED-YAMAHA-CG171SF-CLASSICAL-GUITAR-108374588-i2881534.gc jajaja Hey Rui, I haven't returned it yet [:D] this isn't my yahama! I am getting ready to go to the luthier... quote: I checked some USD prices and it seems to be around $600. How much did you pay for the yamaha? Wow, so used they go $600.00... Yamaha, I paid $246.00 with tax and shipping... Seems, like you are getting a cool guitar!!! Kalo

Sr. Martins -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 17:35:10)
Not used, new with shipping ($35). Iam paying the equivalent of $445 with shipping but I think thats to be expected because Iam in Portugal. The yamaha over here gets even more expensive than the 4F (in some stores). I guess the yamaha is not a good choice here in europe.

Kalo -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 17:38:04)
quote: Not used, new with shipping ($35). Iam paying the equivalent of $445 with shipping but I think thats to be expected because Iam in Portugal. The yamaha over here gets even more expensive than the 4F (in some stores). I guess the yamaha is not a good choice here in europe. $445.00 plus shipping is DECENT!!!! I think you will be happy with the guitar!!! Well, I am heading the the repair dude and if he tells me there is a CRACK, I am going to return and look for something else... I am leaving now [:D] Kalo

Kalo -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 19:23:07)
UPDATE: Just got back from visiting my repair guys, Gary and Bill! Both guys inspected my guitar checked the body under a special light for what I thougth might have been a crack on top! And, it's NOT a CRACK, just the seam, YEAH [:D] The neck is straight and both said I shouldn't go any lower on the action! I agree it is pretty low!!! Both guys couldn't believe the GREAT condition this guitar is in for second hand and said that Yamaha makes a good guitars for the money! Okay, so, I am just upgrading the saddle, and replacing the strings! The bad part is I have to wait 7 to 10 business day to get the guitar back [&o] Back to playing the takamine until then [8D] Kalo

Leñador -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 19:30:05)
Congrats! What's another 7 days.....

GuitarVlog -> RE: Yamaha CG171 Review (Feb. 16 2013 19:51:51)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kalo The bad part is I have to wait 7 to 10 business day to get the guitar back That's not too bad. My technician (back before I did my own setups) would do the whole thing in front of me while I waited. It was a small shop and was easily managed by two people. Waiting was not a chore since I was welcome to chat about the set-up procedure or play lots of expensive guitars for an hour or so. I preferred to chat. An ideal guitar set-up process should have the player present. That way, the technician can have the player test the guitar and determine if a little fine tuning is needed. Seeing set-ups done in person was very helpful in my learning process. I began to understand what I could do myself, what I could do if I invested in the right tools, and what I should leave to a complete professional. As a precaution, since I now understand that you live in Arizona, consider investing in an inexpensive hygrometer for your practice room and an good leak-proof in-case guitar humidifier. The hygrometer may at least let you know if it's safe for you to leave your guitar outside of its case for very long periods.

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