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Kevin James Shanahan -> RE: Transcribing notation to TAB??? (Mar. 2 2013 10:50:59)

Not a big techie myself but I recently downloaded a slow down program called anytune pro . I am so happy with it .




britguy -> RE: Transcribing notation to TAB??? (Mar. 2 2013 13:02:00)

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Here is an "instrument" that I always use....


Not quite sure how you use this to convert notes to TAB?

Do you have similar device with notation notes on it?




rickm -> RE: Transcribing notation to TAB??? (Mar. 2 2013 13:33:52)

there is a program called melody assistant, and its shareware so its free. Not to hard to use, but I havent fiddled with it a great deal.




Erik van Goch -> RE: Transcribing notation to TAB??? (Mar. 2 2013 13:44:01)

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ORIGINAL: El Kiko

Notation is MUCH MUCH better than TAB , thats why it was developed .. TAb i s only a step backward .. it gives you where to put your fingers but not when to do it ,.. i.e ..there is no rhythmn ...so you have to have heard the piece first ....etc etc ...



Actually this "TAB's fail rhythm" idea is a fallacy. The reason most tabs are annotated without rhythm is the fact they are generally published in combination with "standard notation" and for some reason those stupid *** argue that since the rhythm is already covered in the normal notation it is not necessary to show it in the tabs as well. Tabs can have the same rhythmical nuance as standard notation. The REAL problem of tabs is that they only tell you were the note should be played but not with which finger (although it must be possible to include detailed left hand info integrating the usual 1,2,3,4 notation in a different and /or smaller calligraphy.

For reasons explained by Doitsujin published flamenco must always be studied with a very critical eye. Lot's of books are indeed annotated by people with little or no knowledge of flamenco, often with very poor results. Modern techniques to slow down the notes inspired lot's of other people to give it a try as well, but once again many of them fail the knowledge to interpret the notes and rhythms with absolute precision. Often they do a very good job in finding the notes, but the rhythm of the scores they make (and even sell) is sometimes a complete disaster.

Unlike Doitsujin i don't blame the annotation but the ones who fail to do it correctly. Making annotations of your ear-played music (in standard notation or tabs) is a very wise thing to do with many benefits. When done well it allows you to double check if everything is in compas en well structured. Some complex structures are totally shifted compared to normal compas and you can all visualize/analyse that on paper. Obviously one can do without it, but even the biggest names makes mistakes. Vicente and i overlooked for years that his well known soleares intro (included in his debut album) failed 1 beat ....until i put it on paper and noticed 1 beat was failing. You can find mistakes like that with basically all players.

Written annotations can help you to analyze/understand/remember the music and makes it possible to share important details with others. The outstanding transcriptions my father made of Paco Peña (amongst others) reveal incredible detail in rhythm, structure, interpretation and left/right hand strategy and improved my understanding of both the music and professional hand strategy more than 1000ths of hours of ear-play. Quite often i re-discover self written partitures of music i was completely forgotten over time (including own compositions).




britguy -> RE: Transcribing notation to TAB??? (Mar. 2 2013 14:40:08)

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Written annotations help you to analyze/understand/remember the music and makes it possible to share important details with others.


I agree totally. If you can do it correctly.

My biggest problem reading music has always been accurate interpretaton of note values and timing. And this is especially true when trying to read Flamenco notation, where one can get irregular strings of notes within (say) a triplet.

The other problem I have reading guitar notation is the possible multiple locations/positions of each note on the fretboard. I find it much easier to read piano music due to the single position of each note on the keyboard.

That's why I like to have TAB for learning a piece on the guitar. Once I have it committed to memory the TAB goes into the drawer files, usually never to be seen again . . .




gerundino63 -> RE: Transcribing notation to TAB??? (Mar. 2 2013 14:49:54)

The notes I can see on the notewriting...let' s say a high A. Than I can see it directly on the scale- paper, that the high A is on the 5th position, firts string, and tab. it. Etc.




Erik van Goch -> RE: Transcribing notation to TAB??? (Mar. 2 2013 15:03:23)

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ORIGINAL: britguy

The other problem I have reading guitar notation is the possible multiple locations/positions of each note on the fretboard. I find it much easier to read piano music due to the single position of each note on the keyboard.

That's why I like to have TAB for learning a piece on the guitar.



A GOOD partiture in standard notation will give you detailed info over where each note is located and where to put your hand (see other treat about 1th position). Unlike tabs the standard notation does not only tell you were the note is located but also which finger is covering it....but i must admit i favor reading tabs over standard notation as well :-)




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