Erik van Goch -> RE: Rumbas y los demás cosas. (Jan. 15 2013 17:14:06)
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ORIGINAL: Anders Eliasson quote:
Good grief. Look you guys are so negative and it's so Fing wrong attitude. Bringing people down. I heard this same stuff, this same diatribe 16 years ago when I first ventured out into this thing seriously. Was it a lie to pretend it was worth doing? To learn more about a dying art? To be foreigner? Man I heard all this crap and if I had believed it THEN I would have had to hang up my guitar or done some other style of music...and missed out on what exactly? Need I go into detail? I never would have thought I would have been so bold to not think twice about playing for Diego Agujeta in that bar in sanlucar in front of a bunch of flamenco nerds, including antonio carrion etc...not even giving a crap if I did badly or embarrassed my american ass. Why build a guitar even? sheeeesh man. Later I snagged the op to make a live cd with jesus montoya...I don't care about the negative feedback or if I am not even spanish or that jesus is not as good as Manolo Caracol. Or the chance encounter to accompany esperanza fernandez??? Point is if I didnt believe the "lie" I told myself all those years ago, I would never have been so lucky to experience the REALITY of flamenco and it's VERY ALIVE culture and art. And trust me, I am really NO DIFFERENT than you guys, I have had doubts and negativity and depression and experience pain and loss and all that crap. Let it go, carry on and put the heart in and BELIEVE THE LIE...it WILL pay off trust me. Ricardo Could you please stop now Ricardo. I had promised myself to stay away from the general section, but I like that you keep on throwing things against me. so here´s a final post. What you get as being negative is something you create yourself. Its your mirror and it has nothing to do with us. You want to live a lie you say, you even scream it is. Then of course, you get a problem when someone is talking about reality because it takes you away from your lie...... This forum is so far away from reality and it cannot accept input from real world. Thats why I leave. Not because I dont like flamenco, not because I cant accept the attacks on my person, but because I dont belong here anymore. My version of the flamenco world is not being accepted. (but its all I can give. sorry)...... So I leave (at least for a while) and hope the forum will go on and continue the best it can. It has been an important place for me, so I wish and all its members the very best. Regardless if Ricardo is fighting windmills or not, he is doing the same thing you do, giving HIS version of the flamenco world (that's all he can do as well) and you seem equally reluctant to embrace his version as he is in embracing yours. In my opinion Ricardo isn't throwing things against YOU, he is just expressing his feelings in the same way you express yours and just like there is a difference in opinion there is a difference in personal style. One of the reasons you mentioned to leave the foro is that you feel your version of the flamenco world is not being accepted, or to say it more strongly not even wanted. I don't feel it that way at all (i embrace your input as much as i embrace Ricardo's) but as far as the "my version of the flamenco world is not being excepted/wanted" part is involved...... as far as i can remember Ricardo never said "Anders could you please stop now", it was you telling him so it seems to me that the mirror you mentioned works in both directions and that you take things way more personal than intended. I can't change how you feel, i can only hope your decision will give you what you hope it will give you. I welcome any of your input in future and if not, well we both know there is a (flamenco) world outside the foro, a changing world but still. For now i wish you all the best and for what it's worth, i believe in friendship after divorce :-)
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