Kevin -> RE: FlamencoGuitarTheory.com (Jun. 20 2012 17:30:25)
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I was surprised too by Norman's statement, not like him to even take the time. But I understand why. Kevin was, from my point of view, a guy on the more advanced side of the topics that generally get discussed here. He was on some really interesting paths as I could read, and it was exciting to address certain ideas he had from my personal perspective, although I THOUGHT I would be helping him out by steering him in what I KNOW is the right direction...but he very frustratingly would always twist things as though to defend a preconcieved concept he has developed. Such a typical thing from flamenco students that get advanced long before visiting spain, and feeling that the connection to local spainiards that have resided in this country for so long as enough. The right path, but wrong focus, or focus on the less important detail forsaking the bigger picture. Constant back and forth to try to make the guy see the forest for the trees would eventually lead to the underhanded feeling "well, I go with the opinion of the SPANIARD not the foreignor"...as if the opinions were so diametrically opposed, again missing the point and insulting others trying to help at the same time. The resentment of being so deeply involved in the art that is not your OWN culture, and resentment of the missconcepts of those around you that are also not from the culture and clearly "don't get it", is the root of the lack of respect for other "foreignors" like oneself. ( Estela also always exhibited this problem.)Than after tons of carefully worded time consuming energy draining detailed attempts to make ideas more clear....deleted it all and make it look and feel like talking to a brick wall all along. Which I feel some of us were infact doing in the end. Hi Ricardo. This kind of post is exactly why I left. I often enjoy discussions with you but find you to be on the flip side of the same coin. You have tasted success and you are very knowledgeable, and I have never declared otherwise. I take issue with your assessment that I do not value other foreigners' opinions. I do, but when I need a practical answer and the issue does not seem to clear up, would you really expect that I take a foreigner over very experienced flamencos, no matter how long they have been in the states (no one ever said that about Sabicas..."Oh he's been in the states to long." On the contrary, once they rediscovered him they fell in love with him). Seeing the forest for the trees and seeing the trees in the forest are equally important. If I stuck to looking at individual trees it is not that I am not or have never been concerned with the forest. The one point I will concede is that it is important to go see the Spanish forest.[:D] However, you also commit the same errors of judgement as Estela and I. You seem to think that it is impossible that someone can get to an advanced (relatively speaking...I want to incarcerate Amos Lara lol) understanding without going to Spain. You have your yearly trips to Spain, I have my open phone line to two greats. Both are incomplete and have pros and cons. I would never compare you to a brick wall just because I can't get you to see my opinion. For me, it means that I am not crafting a good enough argument and I need to go back and figure out how to persuade the audience. It is very unfortunate that you feel that way because there are some people who will ignore me only because they adore you and won't have a wider perspective because of that. That's ok...I will recommend you anytime. "Yeah, Ricardo's great. Study with him, but don't ask him about passing chords. He'll only give ya one perspective." [;)]
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