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Munin -> RE: online lessons; what's missing? (Jun. 21 2012 21:31:16)
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ORIGINAL: Ricardo
Intereting to me...most students I have are lower level getting the basics of compas, techniques, etc. Advanced students are more rare and specifics can be looked at. Couple of things that raise eyebrow for me with student requests:
NO falsestas, bored of falsetas....? Flamenco guitar is made of that. Even advanced students are looking for never ending more falsetas to add to the bag they carry around and pull form as needed.
More interesting variations on compas....well, not sure how just basic compas could be boring...most often as I look around compas is THE MAIN issue all students have and trying to develop. More than technique or speed just basic compas and having a good sound feel and tempo. If you are bored doing a basic compas something is wrong.
Compas variations become more interesting as you investigate what is really and truly involved with accompanyment, which saddly can't learn completely or efficiently with only a guitar teacher. But in small doses, you don't go from doing basic time keeper to tomatito over night. As Mark said, some hours in dance class gets you on track much quicker than a one on one lesson of a teacher trying to spend time breaking down and doing super slow repeat of a single compas variation. I comes much much easier once you are a good time keeper to begin with and can try new things on the fly without losing the beat. This ties in with why I don't recommend learning flamenco as "pieces" or complete guitar solos.
finally music theory as applied to flamenco is fun as analysis, but understand MOST maestros and composers of the best famenco have no clue about it at all. I see no need why lower level students struggling with compas would need to waste time learning theory as so much more important disciplines need to be focused on at that stage of learning. Totally different if you are talking advanced experienced accompanists that want understand more of the big picture about what they ALREADY can do. That is a very humble and appropriate approach....but a student learning this FIRST is missing out on the proper discpline required to actually get to a high level in flamenco.
Ok my 2 cents. I would want todd to show Soniquete by paco, nice and slow for me. [;)]
I wanna address your points as they almost completely reference the ones I brought up.
First, falsetas. They are important, which is why there are already two dozen sites dealing with them. I just don't see the need for yet another site that teaches 50 falsetas 45 of which I personally don't find interesting or will not learn. As far as sheer playing material goes, there's Jason's site, Jose Tanaka's site, the Encuentro DVDs, the La Sonanta DVDs, other DVDs, countless tab books, etc.
What would be great would be if Todd taught some falsetas by modern players but I'm not sure how that works out in terms of copyright.
As far as theory goes, it depends how you interpret that term. Maybe it's true that most composers don't know much theory (though I highly doubt that when it comes to players like Antonio Rey, Canizares etc). But even then, when composing, they clearly utilize chords, structures and patterns that many people wouldn't know how to use by themselves.
I think in general you're looking at this from a beginner's perspective...yes, for beginners technique and compas are important above everything else..but the point is there is already TONS of beginner material out there anyway...so if Todd made a site, having it aimed at intermediate players and above would actually be more interesting in my opinion.
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