KMMI77 -> RE: Guitar sound (Jun. 18 2012 4:46:33)
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you dont understand the variables of sound and you're being mean to some people here who are trying to explain you things. What you don't understand is that you and others are being presumptuous regarding what knowledge i have of guitars or sound. You made a comment as a joke, and in a patronizing way. You failed to see that, and now you suddenly notice and feel upset when i directed the same type of crap back at you. If you want respect from me, then first show it yourself. quote:
Anyway I asked about that certain vocal accent guitar tops have and if it is considered ideal or a building error, I can't remeber who but some luthier in the luthier section knew exactly what I refered to and said that when tuning the top, this vocal issue of pronounced or accented hollow tones is intended to be avoided. Thanks for your input Ricardo. Did he mention what the cause of it was? Any particular aspects of the construction? quote:
that paco heredia vid reminded me of this Yes i know what you mean Deniz. Those conde guitars do contain some similarities but imo, those two condes are much thicker, slower responding and not as clean, smooth and bouncy overall. Just my opinion. quote:
Ironically, I have a negra in my shop right now that if it were played on stage by a monster player like Tuto it would sound similar. It's about 7 months old now and it did not sound as good when I first made it, but it opened up into a fast beast. It got passed over by the person who had me build it and nobody here on the Foro wanted it ( I got laughed at actually) so I sold it to a folk guitarist who will never do it justice. It's lost a guitar and it's a mother. I'll likely never hear it played properly, which makes me sad after all the work I put into it. Am I bitter? No. Just dismayed that I'll never hear what it really has inside. The stigma of a guitar that gets passed over can be stinging. But if you look for them you might find someone else's trash is your treasure. laters... I sympathize with luthiers. When you have to demonstrate your own guitars and they don't get the showing they deserve. It's kind of like someone designing a ferrari, and then having someone like me demonstrate it. I can drive a bit but the professional race driver will say, How am i supposed to know what the car is capable of after watching that video of a guy not even pushing it? Likewise your also in the awkward position of having to talk up guitars and sell them no matter what. I AM NOT DIRECTING THIS PERSONALLY AT ANYONE IN PARTICULAR> How often does a luthier come on here and say, I just finished a guitar but to be honest, it's not that good? or the response is a bit slow, or the trebles are a bit dead, or the balance over the guitar is not perfect, or all notes in the chords don't ring out crisp and clean, or you will have trouble doing fast rasgueados on this one. It would be bad for business. It's normally the good old, It's got potent trebles, raspy bases, excellent pulsation and easy to play etc... I have played guitars with all these individual qualities but when combined, they don't work well, leaving a guitar that is frustrating to play. Or simply sounds boring and doesn't provide an inspiring background for a story. I know this is subjective but I'm just giving my opinion. Anyway, I apologize to you Anders for labeling your comments as sooky, I found your reply patronizing, suggestive and dismissive. That is why i wrote what i did. It was not the best way to respond so sorry. I actually thought we could all have an intelligent conversation about some of these cool sounding guitars. A chance for guitarists and luthiers to potentially learn something. These are hard core flamencos we are watching.
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