El_Tortuga -> RE: Tangos de Granada (Mar. 22 2012 12:16:17)
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ORIGINAL: rombsix So the way I see it, guitarists know the MOST about flamenco and music because they have to know their own crap as well as some of the crap that dancers and singers do, while this does not apply the other way round. Most of the time, if you just play a different set of chords while keeping the same rhythm, the dancer will go, "Ahhh yes, that's what I was looking for" and you would be laughing to yourself that their request to change the original playing was altogether rubbish. No offense to any dancers or singers, and I'm sorry for hi-jacking the thread. But I just felt like I had to say this after having interacted with some dancers. The fact that guitarists are at the "bottom of the food chain" as stated above is in my opinion utter bull-crap. Cheers! Haha, don't take it out on the poor dancers [:D] Historically, flamenco started with voice and rudimentary percussion, then added dance, then added guitar, then other percussion and instruments, cajón etc. When the singer sings, the guitarist and the dancer support. When the singer is done and takes a break, the dancer comes first and everyone supports. When the dancer and singer take a break, we can go for a beer. [:D] But seriously, the cante is the top of the hierarchy, then the dance, then the accompaniment. Really great accompanists are as important to flamenco - maybe MORE important - than really great soloists. But we can't expect a dancer to know how to sing and play guitar, he/she is busy learning to dance. The same as we can't expect a guitarist to know how to sing and dance, he/she is busy learning the music (and the rules of accompaniment, if desired). The only person I know who can do it ALL, is Rafael de Carmen. We hosted him in Halifax in 2010, what a time that was. He is first and foremost a dancer, but he can also play guitar, cajón and even sings a bit! So he was bouncing back and forth between all of them while we learned his Taranto. What a guy. As an accompanist, I am constantly on the watch for when the dancer and singer make mistakes - and they always do LOL - the guitarists are the 'glue' that hold the performance together.
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