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Ruphus -> RE: New fustero tuners finally had arrived (Jan. 17 2011 18:04:20)
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ORIGINAL: jshelton5040
You're correct about the drill guide. It's way more important than the quality of the tuners.
When Gotoh's first were available in the US I was buying them for about $10/set for the premium grade. Now they cost around $60 or more and there's a company in Taiwan making a comparable tuner for about $10. Unless they're solid gold which wouldn't work well anyway there is no reason for the inflated price of most tuners. Look at them, there's nothing more than a worm, gear, post, roller, button and plate. There are innumerable products far more complicated and requiring much more precision that sell for almost nothing.
I am of the impression that the vast majority has not experienced significant differences with tuners, as I suppose, not even too many among luthiers.
But that does not mean that there coincidentally weren´t significant differences.
Actually, I used to believe the same thing; considering the boutique stuff as useless and over priced sort of jewelry. ( With the latter opinion still in place, in sight of most boutique manufacturers´pricings.)
But one needs to mount a set like the above on a guitar first to see how performance can matter, and in how far.
Especially, if appreciating the sonority of fine tuning. ( Yep, got the Peterson strobe Flip, and can match it to completely halt when tuning by fork.)
Tweaking with mechanics like the Schellers is really different from other tuners that I have used.
Quoting myself again:
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It is almost as if the pegs were knobs of an electronic device; that immediate is the tweaking.
With a strobe at work it in fact it feels as if you were turning a button of it.
It seems that there are relevant aspects of materials and the way of bearings used, but more so distinct shape of worm and gear, which determine the way tuners function.
The latter apparently not optimally understood by common manufacturers ( including boutique shops ).
As a specialist in mapping and manufactory of gear in his own shop, Scheller while selecting for himself a guitar in the shop of his friend luthier Stefan Zander, routinely felt the imperfection with usual machine heads; the slipping, stucking and breaking lose.
As he told me, that was the reason why he went into the matter and started working out himself after feedback on visual design with luthiers Zander and Matthias Damman. Initially for personal interest, then been urged to put out more.
Clearing an imperfection which though not always prominent, at the latest noticable the moment that you get rid of it.
Familiar with well functioning, soft, without onset, turning tuners, like more often so to be found with acoustic guitars ( steelers ), I have always been imagening comparable functionality for nylon guitars.
That is why I like to recommend these tuners for who likes precision tuning in a really seamless and comfortable way. ( Without having to hold one´s breath about whether pinpointing or having to take another approach / having missed out on the minuscule nudge.)
With 146 gr they ought to come in relatively light-weight, BTW.
Ruphus
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