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mark indigo -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Dec. 17 2010 18:33:00)

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Canciones andaluzas para dos guitarras (1966) by Paco de Lucía & Ramón de Algeciras.

01) Guajira «Que viene el coco»
02) Bulería «La Zarzamora»
03) Tientos «Canción del río»
04) Fandangos de Huelva «Al Conquero»
05) Jaleo «Los piconeros»
06) Bulería «Roja de celos»
07) Tanguillo «Pepa Banderas»
08) Rumba «El Inclusero»
09) Farruca «Limosna de amores»
10) Bulería «Romance gitano»
11) Bulería «Te lo juro yo»
12) Sevillanas «Abril en Sevilla»


wow! i never even heard of this one... would love to hear it, where can i get it?

...well, there you go, i thought i had them all and another one pops up!



mark indigo -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Dec. 17 2010 18:44:33)

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I meant "12 exitos para 2 guitarras".


ok, i figured it out, you didn't mean 12 canciones andaluces para 2 guitarras, or 12 exitos para 2 guitarras flamencas con orchestra de cuerdas, or 2 guitarras flamencas en stereo, or 2 guitarras flamencas en america latina, or 12 canciones de garcia lorca (there were a lot of albums of 12 tracks played by 2 guitars, easy to get confused, you meant this one;



12 exitos para 2 guitarras flamencas with Ricardo Modrego

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elgreco -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Dec. 17 2010 19:04:36)

No, I just meant what I said. :) Nothing fancy, just straight out flamenco classics performed perfectly. But I guess it depends on your definition of "favorite". I may have learned the most from almoraima, or admire and respect the technique from fantasia but that does not make them my favorites. I enjoy any virtuoso's music (not just PDL) which is usually peformed at 160miles/hour with a lot weird and hard fingerings as much as I enjoy doing guitar exercises. Is it cool? Yes. Do I enjoy listening to them for too long? Not really.

D.



frhout -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Dec. 17 2010 19:08:13)

Thanks a lot, Paul. I don't have this one, and just managed to dig one out from www.deflamenco.com.



elgreco -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Dec. 17 2010 19:15:49)

Ha,

Amazon calls it dos guitarras flamencas:
http://www.amazon.com/dos-guitarras-flamencas-Lucia-Paco/dp/B000267YN8/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1292616303&sr=8-3

Sorry Mark. My album titles come from computer hard-drive directories, which I thought were the actual titles. You are right the full title is "12 exitos para 2 guitarras flamencas" with Ricardo Modrego

D.



elgreco -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Dec. 17 2010 19:20:31)

Hehehehe,

By looking at the song titles of this one, now I understand what Mark meant by cheese.

:)
Dinos
quote:

http://www.amazon.com/12-Hits-Para-2-Guitarras/dp/B0000AKCAJ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1292610729&sr=1-1

That couldn't possibly be anyone’s favourite: he must certainly be confusing it with something else.



Paul Magnussen -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Dec. 17 2010 19:56:46)

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wow! i never even heard of this one... would love to hear it, where can i get it?


Like the man said:

https://www.deflamenco.com/tiendaflamenco/veri.jsp?cod=4533

IMHO it's the best of the duet albums.



mark indigo -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Dec. 17 2010 20:10:42)

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Hehehehe,

By looking at the song titles of this one, now I understand what Mark meant by cheese.

:)


[:D][:D][:D]



Rain -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Dec. 17 2010 20:23:54)

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really love that duet with Raphael Rabello on 'Todos os Tons'


Todos os Tons is one of my all time favorites. Raphael Rabello was one of the greatest guitarist I have ever heard. The track you are refering to is a Samba Do Avião.



Guest -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Dec. 18 2010 0:32:29)

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Samba Do Avião.

'song of the jet'...a far cry from the jobim original...kick-ass playing..awesome arrangement. yep a gem of an album.



El Norte -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Dec. 18 2010 2:23:29)

Another vote for Siroco. One of the all-time greatest.



minordjango -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Dec. 18 2010 6:25:42)

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samba Do Avião.


like to hear there version its cool and raphael was pure brilliance.

cant personally beat albums solo from paco delucia the first 2 just amazing playing , i like his versions of other peoples pieces



jg7238 -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Dec. 18 2010 14:54:56)

For me it has to be:

"La Fabulosa Guitarra de Paco De Lucia"
"El duende Flamenco de Paco de lucia"
"Solo Quiero Caminar"
"Luzia"
(Live Recording) "Live in America"
(Non-flamenco) "Dos Guitarras Flamencas en America Latina"



mark indigo -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Dec. 18 2010 18:24:49)

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Favorite PdL album?


Almoraima and Siroco equally. For me these are the most "complete" albums where i like all the tracks and they are almost like one piece of music from beginning to end. There are many other tracks I like, but no other whole albums. I also put in a vote for El Duende Flamenco, if it wasn't for the strings that would be up there too.



Andy Culpepper -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Dec. 18 2010 18:43:14)

Cositas Buenas. mature, beautiful and very personal artistic expression. I think you can get the closest to Paco's soul with this album. It's listenable but extremely deep IMO.



mark74 -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Mar. 8 2014 6:50:17)

I thought it would be timely to bring this thread back

I'm not particularly original in that I like Fuente y Caudal and Almoraima the best. For me they are like ground zero...the most fundamental image of flamenco in my mind and always will be



withinity -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Mar. 8 2014 7:51:18)

Fantasia Flamenco from even before i knew the difference between Flamenco or Rumba or even knew what a palo was.



duende -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Mar. 8 2014 10:58:55)

siroco,solo quiero caminar and Luzia.

and all his work with camarón



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Aretium -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Mar. 8 2014 12:39:52)

I love all his big albums, I can only say I dislike the para 2 guitarras albums. But I love Cositas Buenas because I had to develop a relationship with it as I didn't like it at first, now I love it. They are all amazing, what an artist, I have never been in "love" with a person but I was and am still in love with Paco.



mark indigo -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Mar. 8 2014 13:10:34)

since the thread was running before I've had a couple more years to listen to Luzia and Cositas Buenas, which I've come to like a lot.... I also like Solo Quiero Caminar more, and Fuente Y Caudal is really meeting my previous "favourite" criteria - damn, I just like 'em all!



Ricardo -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Mar. 8 2014 16:00:40)

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ORIGINAL: mark indigo

since the thread was running before I've had a couple more years to listen to Luzia and Cositas Buenas, which I've come to like a lot.... I also like Solo Quiero Caminar more, and Fuente Y Caudal is really meeting my previous "favourite" criteria - damn, I just like 'em all!


Over the years I have come to realize Paco has stylistic periods of double album work. He couldn't put every palo on a single record yet everything was evolving at the same time. So I now take his work in groups of two.

Fabulosa/Fantasia-traditional

Duende/Fuente y Caudal-personal compositional style based on tradition

Almoraima/Solo Quiero Caminar-experiment with outside influence

Siroco/Zyryab-Mature modern style

Luzia/Cositas Buenas-avant guard exploration

and of course he punctuates in between those periods with his live albums. The trio albums I like as the side project, all 3 taken as one work, the classical project is also a duo set, Falla/Rodrigo. I have noticed the two albums I always have in my car to listen at anytime are Duende and Zyryab. For sure when his new Canciones Andaluzes comes out I will couple it with the old version of guitar duets with his brother (1966). Nice book ends for his entire career.

Ricardo



Grisha -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Mar. 8 2014 16:22:18)

Not sure if I agree with the double album thing. What about Castro Marin? Also, to my ears Zyryab is closer to Luzia than to Siroco, and Almoraima and Solo Quiero Caminar are way too different to be a pair.



Ricardo -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Mar. 8 2014 16:46:21)

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ORIGINAL: Grisha

Not sure if I agree with the double album thing. What about Castro Marin? Also, to my ears Zyryab is closer to Luzia than to Siroco, and Almoraima and Solo Quiero Caminar are way too different to be a pair.



In terms of castro marin...you just said it yourself. "Almoraima and solo Quiero Caminar way too different..."...well, that is EXACTLY what Castro Marin is. If they were so different, that album would be quite odd. It is both of those Albums in one. In fact you can include that with Almoraima and Solo as a 3 pack if you want...it is just that its literally the same material, yet in my opinion inferior fidelity to the other two. Perhaps some guitar aficionados will prefer it as it is ONLY guitar and no other instruments...yet that is a superficial way to dispel the other two albums for their musical content. I don't really consider it a "bridge" between the two albums either as it is just practically note for note renditions, with only minor changes.

As far as Zyryab/Luzia...well, I just remember in 1997 when Paco came on tour with ALL new music and it was quite a shock to the system. Everything seemed strange and unfamiliar as the album had not been released in USA yet.



mark74 -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Mar. 8 2014 17:10:13)

I think theres something to what Ricardo says, although I think of Fuente y Caudal and Almoraima as a pair

They both have their epic and commercially successful rumba, their legendary bulerias and their haunting legendary melody (reflejo la luna/ cuevo del gato)

They're kind of like the Godfather 1 and 2 of flamenco in my mind and came out around the same time



gerundino63 -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Mar. 8 2014 17:53:03)

I like the sound of his first Albums, the one he plays on a blanca.
The raw edges, the " nearly out of control" the most.



Ricardo -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Mar. 8 2014 23:37:26)

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ORIGINAL: gerundino63

I like the sound of his first Albums, the one he plays on a blanca.
The raw edges, the " nearly out of control" the most.


In the integral box set the remastered version of Fabulosa has a full rich sound, I am sure that is his Negra he used as a young man (see video of him playing Recuerdo a Patino on a boat, or Impetu). It definantly has an "edgy" woody sound compared to the guitar used on Fantasia, which is more dry and clean. I would say the Fantasia guitar is the peg head blanca that he used to accompany camaron...same sound anyway (tico tico video).



Lorenzo714 -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Mar. 9 2014 2:14:11)

I like "en vivo desde el teatro real" & "almoraima"



Bulerias2005 -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Mar. 9 2014 2:34:12)

I love them all, but: Luzia. By a mile. I don't know if I would classify it as "avant-garde" necessarily. But it is a complete and beautiful musical -- artistic -- statement that puts it among the greatest albums ever IMO.



gemelo -> RE: Favorite PdL album? (Mar. 9 2014 8:35:02)

Fuente y Caudal



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