NormanKliman -> RE: Puro or Nuevo Flamenco? (Sep. 23 2010 13:35:56)
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Art or culture should be for good. I agree with that, but I suppose that anyone who plays the guitar to feed their children will have a "hard" attitude about suffering and discipline. quote:
i think there is some basic respect towards the old... It's a big part of their culture. quote:
Each generation's nuevo is the next generation's puro. quote:
Music needs the test of time...and the old stuff has stood it IMO. Well, it sounds nice to try to say it in just a few words, but both statements fall short of being accuarate, IMO. As you both know, what really happens is that only some things get passed on and become tradition. Who plays like the ricardistas nowadays? Depending on the case, it could be good or bad that some things aren't played today. I wish guitarists accompanied like Melchor, but I'm glad they aren't outplaying the singer like Montoya. I wish they played a little stronger like Marote, but I'm glad they aren't as brutish as some of the old-school players. quote:
Every modern player can play old stuff They used to hit the strings harder in general, and sometimes (like in Morao's bulerías) that requires a different kind of strength and endurance. Most of today's guitarists would probably have a hard time playing like Marote. quote:
Angel Alvarez Caballero, Eusebio Rioja, and Jose Blas Vega... Norberto Torres is a flamenco guitarist and much more of an authority than the others, although you never know what people will find in a library or archive. http://www.tristeyazul.com/suena_guitarra/confgf.htm quote:
>is the guitarist from the Casa Patas logo... It's taken from the cover of the Magna anthology. I don't know how old that drawing is, but I don't think it's supposed to be El Planeta. I've seen two drawings that are supposed to represent El Planeta. One is here http://www.horizonteflamenco.com/pagina.php?n=fillo and the other is in Mundo y Formas. quote:
do we know the name of the first guitarist on record known as a flamenco guitarist ?? how far back are the guitarists names documented ? and who and in what year was the first one we know of? The oldest recordings are cylinders that were made just around the turn of the century (1895-1900). The oldest guitarist among those recordings was probably Ángel de Baeza. If his date of birth is right, it would make him 18 years older than Borrull padre, who was another very old one to appear on the earliest recordings. Others were Juan Gandulla "Habichuela" and Román García, although, for example, Javier Molina was older than either of them but didn't record until 1931. As you can imagine, there are other guitarists on those ancient cylinders and disks but we don't know their dates of birth or even their names in some cases. Before recordings were made, there were plenty of flamenco guitarists. One was Patiño, who accompanied Enrique El Mellizo and many others and was supposedly 30 years older than Paco de Lucena. All of the aforementioned guitarists were older than Ramón Montoya.
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