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ralexander -> Jesus Bellido (Jun. 8 2010 4:47:58)

Hello you fine foro members - yet another request from me for info on a specific luthier [:)]

Who has experience with the guitars of Jesus Bellido of Granada? I found this lovely example:

http://www.themusicemporium.com/product-detail/product/bellido-flamenco.html

Please share your experiences!



dckh -> RE: Jesus Bellido (Jun. 8 2010 10:38:27)

Hi,

I've one blanca 2007, sound very percussive, dry and with quick response, flat neck.
If you like Granada school guitars it's a good option
I've tried 2 blancas in he's shop and 1 negra of is father Manuel.
I choose my blanca ! I fall in love with the sound and the vibration of the guitar, I'm very happy with it now after 3 years, but I remember that I was disapointed with this flat neck the first time.

So you need to try it before. [;)]



Arash -> RE: Jesus Bellido (Jun. 8 2010 11:48:33)

I tried 2 guitars in his shop and i didn't like them.



ralexander -> RE: Jesus Bellido (Jun. 8 2010 12:47:41)

Thanks to both of you for your comments - I got some more info on that particular guitar today, turns out it has a 50mm nut which seems narrow compared to most other flamenco guitars I have seen. Unfortunately, there are no flamenco guitars locally, and I will be purchasing online so no trying before buying. I would only really have the option of paying to ship a guitar back if I didn't like it, or reselling of course.



ralexander -> RE: Jesus Bellido (Jun. 9 2010 10:09:23)

Arash - would you mind expanding on your comment? What in particular did you not like about the 2 you played? Were they both blancas?

Feel free to PM if you would prefer. Thanks in advance.



J Wright -> RE: Jesus Bellido (Jun. 22 2010 19:37:11)

Hello,

I found this forum whilst doing a search for Jesus Bellido. I have a parlour guitar of his - after a guitar by D. Antonio Torres. I think Jesus Bellido only made two of these, certainly the one I have says 2 of 2. It's a great guitar, wonderfully light but with an amazing sound. I'm not a flamenco player though. My other two guitars are made by George Lowden and the Jesus Bellido easily out plays them - and they're pretty good!

So. A nice guitar. I bought it in Granada.



Escribano -> RE: Jesus Bellido (Jun. 22 2010 19:56:37)

quote:

Hello,

I found this forum whilst doing a search for Jesus Bellido.


Welcome, glad you found us.



ralexander -> RE: Jesus Bellido (Jun. 22 2010 20:08:34)

A couple of Lowdens and a Bellido - sounds like you're in good company =)

Welcome to the Foro!



at_leo_87 -> RE: Jesus Bellido (Jun. 22 2010 23:40:22)

i've been to jesus's place a couple of times. you can tell the man is passionate and obsessed about his work. even on vacation, he doesn't stop working. i've been to a few shops and i would rank him among the top 3.

but if you can, try out a manuel bellido. holy sh******t!!! [:D]



Estevan -> RE: Jesus Bellido (Jun. 25 2010 2:28:15)

Jesús Bellido makes superb guitars that are very light and - as Jorge Gómez said of mine last week - "muy, muy flamenco". Also very good quality/price ratio.



minordjango -> RE: Jesus Bellido (Jun. 28 2010 19:49:46)

thats a good seller Estevan -- im so interested in a guitar from MAnuel, as i have played a few and they just Rip!

ok played like well and sound loud, but Jesus (I mean Bellido), does amir haddad use one ? hes sound is unreal what modelo is it ?

on my next journey to spain or there abouts id love to get a decent guitar from the bellido clan



Ron.M -> RE: Jesus Bellido (Jun. 28 2010 20:10:33)

Amir Haddad plays one..




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Estevan -> RE: Jesus Bellido (Jun. 28 2010 20:28:56)

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Amir Haddad plays one..

That's a Jose Lopez Bellido (younger brother of Manuel, uncle of Jesus and Miguel Angel). He doesn't really build any more, because of back problems. I saw him recently and he said he's practically retired.



minordjango -> RE: Jesus Bellido (Jun. 29 2010 1:20:46)

oh NO !! that means the prices will go through roof !

i guess i had a few lessons with some local dudes (in Granada) they said the guitars they had were like 3000EURO and the modelo they had like 25 years old , i just love the sounds they make up
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ah if i were rich man



minordjango -> RE: Jesus Bellido (Jun. 29 2010 1:32:55)

what about the difference between Manuel and Jesus guitars ?

and consistency of work ?


love to hear any ideas from folk, ive seen a few cheap bellidos ,j



ralexander -> RE: Jesus Bellido (Jun. 30 2010 0:29:27)

In an interesting turn of events, I ended up purchasing the Bellido I linked in my original post. I'm expecting it to arrive tomorrow - thanks to everyone for the info!

Jesus sent me an email confirming that he used a 25yr old German spruce top on this one.



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minordjango -> RE: Jesus Bellido (Jun. 30 2010 2:24:58)

thats great amigo , let us all know how it is , do you mind if i ask how much it was ?


one day ill have to get a bellido



at_leo_87 -> RE: Jesus Bellido (Jun. 30 2010 16:53:05)

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as Jorge Gómez said of mine last week - "muy, muy flamenco". Also very good quality/price ratio.


well, not to take credit away from jesus, but you also played very well. [:D]

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what about the difference between Manuel and Jesus guitars ?


jesus seems like an experimenter, i would say his guitars sound more modern. the action was a bit higher than im used to but that can be adjusted.

estevan has a jesus with red cypress. it's stunning.

the manuel i tried was very traditional looking and sounding, the action was super low, probably so close to the soundboard that a cigarette wouldnt be able to pass through. super easy to play. first time i've seen anything like that.



orsonw -> RE: Jesus Bellido (Jun. 30 2010 18:31:34)

I think Johannes at Mundo flamenco has a Bellido for sale. I imagine it will be a good one; in my experience Johannes only sells good guitars.

A couple of second hand Jesus Bellidos and a Manuel Bellido for sale here at a good price-

http://www.spanish-guitar-bristol.co.uk/stock/guitar%20stock.htm



minordjango -> RE: Jesus Bellido (Jul. 1 2010 3:23:00)

thanks guys , the prices arent to bad in england , ill be back there soon so can have a play.

i secretly love a bellido mid to late 80's the 2 i played were insanely flamenco , with a certain clout! of a sound.

the fellow wanted 3000 euro, i wish i had it



Jim Opfer -> RE: Jesus Bellido (Jul. 3 2010 8:17:50)

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Amir Haddad plays a Jose Lopez Bellido (thats Jose's headstock in the video clip ... unless Jesus is using the same design).


Yes, that's a Jose Lopez Bellido. Good idea, writing your name on the guitar in case someone picks it up by mistake.



ralexander -> RE: Jesus Bellido (Jul. 6 2010 14:41:44)

I received the Jesus Bellido blanca last week - I'm very new to flamenco (not to guitar, been playing 16yrs), but I can say it's a featherweight and incredibly responsive. A very traditional sound to my ears - short sustain but powerful bass tones. I have a long way to go, but I'm starting to figure out how it wants to be played.

minordjango - I paid 2600US plus import taxes and duties.

PS - and the smell AHHHHHHH!!!



minordjango -> RE: Jesus Bellido (Jul. 8 2010 23:17:52)

gosh i never really heard of Jose, just jesus and manuel , i dont think anyone here has mentioned Jose bellido ,

but if amir haddad plays one thats it !!! - hes sound is huge , anyone know more about joses guitars prices , availability ?

2600$ for jesus bellido sounds great amigo, upload something would be cool



orsonw -> RE: Jesus Bellido (Jul. 9 2010 16:20:42)

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but if amir haddad plays one thats it !!! - hes sound is huge , anyone know more about joses guitars prices , availability ?


Jose is well known and respected but has recently retired from building so you'll need to find a second hand one. I've seen blancas advertised for £2000- £3000.

Don't forget that Amir Haddad himself is responsible for most of the sound, you can hear him play several very different guitars and he always still sounds like himself.



minordjango -> RE: Jesus Bellido (Jul. 10 2010 5:37:45)

very good point Orsonw , amirs playihng is sublime at that .

i emailed the shops in England with the 1500 pound guitars, priced well i think , yet didnt here a reply ,

what is the consistency of Jose bellidos work ? be a shame to order one and not be able to play it !!!, any notable features people can tell me about , as i play classical a lot , id been interested on the classical bellido and just put tap plates on it .



minordjango -> RE: Jesus Bellido (Jul. 10 2010 5:51:25)

in particular jesus bellido , "traditional guitar" as i saw one for sale in france , tempting!!



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minordjango -> RE: Jesus Bellido (Jul. 11 2010 7:07:00)

yeah i agree, hence why trying to get as much info about the Jesus bellido traditional modelo first , unfortunately not in the situation to try before i buy , and its hard without a functional lguitar.

not sure if i can wait another 3 months.

arash why didnt you seem interested in the bellidos ? and what was the prices in Bellidos shop ? for his basic models if he has any ?

any other experiences would be nice to hear, with Jesus Bellido guitars



ricecrackerphoto -> RE: Jesus Bellido (Jul. 11 2010 22:19:55)

i have a jesus bellido and it's his taller model which is shop model, supposedly a guitar that his assistants had a greater hand in making, which is why it is unsigned. He no longer offers the taller.

paid $2100 for it three years ago and i am very lucky in that this guitar is exactly what i wanted. i love shopping around and trying out guitars and the only one i've played that was a serious contender as a replacement was a jose lopez bellido.

jesus is an experimenter but the guitars still remain traditional. pedro cortes played my jesus earlier this year and loved it. he said he couldn't play a lot of guitars because of how hard he plays.

i've heard it said that you must really dig in to bring out the sound from a guitar from granada. with mine at least, it's very true.

doug



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