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gj Michelob -> PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (Mar. 2 2010 7:27:46)

PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge

Dear all:

As the final month, leading to the submission deadline (3/30/10) starts, I reiterate an appeal for help in organizing this complex challenge:

The project’s feasibility and success will largely depend on the number of entries we will receive, and in part on the national diversity of the composers. On this subject, while I realize I cannot ask that you become inspired and compose, I can only hope that many members are industriously composing as I write this.

However, I would really appreciate some help in the following areas:

1. Receiving and gathering all Mp3 entries into a coherent digital file which we will send to CD Baby, along with all necessary titles and descriptions;
2. [I have no idea if this is possible but] reviewing all entries to make sure volumes, effects and sound will have some degree of uniformity;
3. Creating the CD cover artwork, which is required by CDBaby even when only offering Mp3 and which will turn into the CD cover after selections will have been completed;
4. Writing the introduction of the Challenge for the CDBaby designated page (I can do this, but would love some input);
5. Creating a video for youtube promoting the designated CD baby site, perhaps a slide show, including images of the contestants synched with clips of their respective work;

Please let me know as soon as possible if you have the time and ability to provide some assistance.

Thank you so much.

Here is a link to the introduction and rules of this Competition

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=117455&mpage=1&p=&tmode=1&smode=1&key=




Escribano -> RE: PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (Mar. 2 2010 10:03:16)

gj,

We can help with 3. & 5. My wife is a graphics designer, she designed the El Guitarrero DVD and has all the tools.

I can create and edit the YouTube video. I have pro software for that.




Florian -> RE: PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (Mar. 2 2010 10:37:18)

I can help with number 2 i guess...probably better a sound pro like toddk or jason...but if they cant and no other audio pro comes foward i can try


u mean just check that the volume between the different audio files that is not so different ?

quote:

effects and sound will have some degree of uniformity


well that would be a litlle harder cause everyone has their own setup and preferences... i wouldnt touch anyones sound without the ok from them, i assume they mixed it how they want it...


but let me know if theres anything u need help with




Doitsujin -> RE: PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (Mar. 2 2010 10:59:52)

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effects and sound will have some degree of uniformity


? Wasnt the idea of this challenge how spain sounds to "us" and not to the person with the fingers on the effect-levers...?




Florian -> RE: PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (Mar. 2 2010 11:10:28)

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? Wasnt the idea of this challenge how spain sounds to "us" and not to the person with the fingers on the effect-levers...?


i can understand what he means...spain might sound a certain way to you but if you dont know to reporoduce it in an audio ...the audio might not sound exactly how it sounded in your head..

so if u got the sound just how u like it fine...but if anyone who might not necesarely be experienced with this sort of thing and needs help with audio theres no reason why they couldnt get it


i think everyone who submits should state if they are happy with thier sound or need some help




gj Michelob -> RE: PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (Mar. 2 2010 11:18:28)

Thank you, Escribano and Florian, for your kind offers. I am counting on you.

Doits, all I meant really had to do with volume, yet given my inexperience with this area -sound engineering- I am submitting to you (all) a concept.. to create a grid of songs with a uniform “volume”. I do not mean that anyone should upset the equalization choices of the composer, but harmonize the volume so that when one scrolls through the songs posted on CD Baby's site, there will not be any unpleasant discrepancy.




Doitsujin -> RE: PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (Mar. 2 2010 11:19:42)

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..the audio might not sound exactly how it sounded in your head..


Thats true... till now my recording sound never made me too happy.. :./ And I have no idea to fix that..




at_leo_87 -> RE: PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (Mar. 2 2010 11:35:52)

this should be moved to the general section so that more people will see it.




Ron.M -> RE: PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (Mar. 2 2010 11:47:00)

quote:

all I meant really had to do with volume, yet given my inexperience with this area -sound engineering- I am submitting to you (all) a concept.. to create a grid of songs with a uniform “volume”. I do not mean that anyone should upset the equalization choices of the composer, but harmonize the volume so that when one scrolls through the songs posted on CD Baby's site, there will not be any unpleasant discrepancy.


I understand perfectly what you mean gj,

Like in the various "Challenges" we have from time to time, you have to adjust the volume knob for each one.

OK studios go for standard 0dB and we have to adjust each recording so that the listener can listen to them all without jumping up to to turn the volume right up on one and then jumping up again to avoid getting blasted away on the next one.

We really need an overall Producer...

Maybe ToddK if he's not too busy?

(I'll put this cat picture in to see if it helps ...)

Puleeez Todd....

cheers,

Ron



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gj Michelob -> RE: PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (Mar. 2 2010 13:50:12)

quote:

We really need an overall Producer...

Maybe ToddK if he's not too busy?

(I'll put this cat picture in to see if it helps ...)

Puleeez Todd....


Exactly, Ron, thank you.
How do we move this into the "general" as suggested by At_Leo?




Escribano -> RE: PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (Mar. 2 2010 13:56:35)

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How do we move this into the "general" as suggested by At_Leo?


It's already there [8|]




HemeolaMan -> RE: PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (Mar. 2 2010 17:59:04)

If todd and jason are busy I could do it.

flo and doit, we are talking about mastering which just sweetens the mix. We aren't talking about being a producer or mix engineer.




kozz -> RE: PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (May 13 2010 2:21:36)

What is the status on the Composition Challenge?




gj Michelob -> RE: PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (May 13 2010 5:15:28)

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What is the status on the Composition Challenge?


Good morning, Kozz.

I might have missed a few things while travelling. Do you have a complete artwork for the CD already?

I believe that Hem is ready, please confirm.

We need to send your respective work to CDBaby, as soon as you can.




kozz -> RE: PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (May 13 2010 5:20:31)

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Good morning, Kozz.

I might have missed a few things while travelling. Do you have a complete artwork for the CD already?

I believe that Hem is ready, please confirm.

We need to send your respective work to CDBaby, as soon as you can.


Hi GJ,
Nope, I am still awaiting the trackorders.
I've sent out an email last week to have this confirmed, but no reaction unfortunately.

To sent it to CD baby it all has to be under one account isn't it?
Perhaps it is better to sent everything in one go. (audio and video)

If I got the tracklists today, I might be able to finish it today, otherwhise when I am back from Barcelona.




gj Michelob -> RE: PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (May 13 2010 6:45:25)

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I am still awaiting the trackorders.


here it is:

Dark Start
Amarguilo
Mi Amor
Victor (Solea)
De Sevilla a Jerez
Flor (Rodeña)
Nos Miran
Crescent Moon Serenade (Solea)




kozz -> RE: PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (May 13 2010 7:23:20)

quote:

here it is:

Dark Start
Amarguilo
Mi Amor
Victor (Solea)
De Sevilla a Jerez
Flor (Rodeña)
Nos Miran
Crescent Moon Serenade (Solea)


thanks GJ




at_leo_87 -> [Deleted] (May 13 2010 7:43:02)

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at_leo_87 -> RE: PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (May 13 2010 7:44:39)

you can put "nos miran (bulerias)" for mine.
i think it will be more congruent to state the palo for each track as opposed to only some of them.




Doitsujin -> RE: PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (May 13 2010 7:56:24)

Another question.... Do I have to buy the CD in order to be able to hear the whole tracks? Or do the foro-people get the mp3s for free here in this thread?




gj Michelob -> RE: PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (May 13 2010 8:36:54)

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Do I have to buy the CD in order to be able to hear the whole tracks?


I would hope/expect the members to vote by downloading their favourite
track(s). However, we may need to post on the foro the mp3 of each piece so to allow the general audience to hear the entire track (as CDBaby only allows 30 seconds of playing time).

At_Leo, thank you.

I reported the list as sent by Hem, however I agree that we should have the relevant designation of chosen palo for each entry.

Finally, I would like a paragraph or two, from each artist, about who they are and their music in the challenge. These would only be posted on the CDBaby site -not on the CD itself.




xirdneH_imiJ -> RE: PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (May 13 2010 8:52:47)

i think making all the mp3s available here is a must...

GJ, i just sent you an email with a couple of sentences about me!




gj Michelob -> RE: PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (May 13 2010 8:59:54)

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i think making all the mp3s available here is a must...


I respectfully disagree, but -as I said- we may have no choice and the issue is moot.

The membership vote is probably the most important vote, but I fear only a few will exercise it by purchasing the track of thier choice.
I am trying to "invent" some mechanism to have members express thier selection and opinion while contributing a dollar or two to this project.




KMMI77 -> RE: PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (May 15 2010 7:34:53)

There are ways of streaming non downloadable versions of of the tracks. Myspace has music players that stream but cannot be downloaded easily.

Perhaps escribano could find a way?




cathulu -> RE: PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (May 15 2010 21:37:04)

I am still waiting....




gj Michelob -> RE: PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (May 15 2010 21:43:51)

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I am still waiting....


So am I, really. I understand we should receive the mastered files any day now.




gj Michelob -> for KOZZ !! PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (May 24 2010 16:00:25)

Kozz my emails to your address were returned as undeliverable. In any event, I mentioned that I will meet Kevin in Chicago this Thursday when we hope to finalize and upload the music on CDBaby. Do we have a viable layout, do you need any further information or time?

dearly,




kozz -> RE: for KOZZ !! PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (May 24 2010 19:16:13)

quote:

Kozz my emails to your address were returned as undeliverable. In any event, I mentioned that I will meet Kevin in Chicago this Thursday when we hope to finalize and upload the music on CDBaby. Do we have a viable layout, do you need any further information or time?

dearly,


GJ,
Thats odd.
Better sent the emails to remco.kas@gmail.com than?

No I havent finished, I have been lazy, playing and enjoying the sun here (for the few days a year it happens).
I only needed the duration of the songs.




gj Michelob -> RE: for KOZZ !! PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (May 25 2010 5:48:47)

quote:

GJ,
Thats odd.
Better sent the emails to remco.kas@gmail.com than?

No I havent finished, I have been lazy, playing and enjoying the sun here (for the few days a year it happens).
I only needed the duration of the songs.


I tried a few times, but am rejected (not a nice experience, really). do you still need the length of each tune?

I will email you.




xirdneH_imiJ -> RE: for KOZZ !! PLEASE HELP: Composition Challenge (Jun. 9 2010 7:27:58)

is there anything new on this front?




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