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gj Michelob -> RE: QUERY: is it still a Solea if….??? (Dec. 28 2009 15:56:49)

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"what will Tomatito say?" - are you implying that he'll be one of our judges?


I dropped the name, didn't I? I cannot promise anything yet, however a dear freind and fellow attorney who has interesting ties with Spain -who takes flamenco dance lessons religiously- and with whom I shared this ambitious project, knows Tomatito personally and promised to spend his name IF.... if the competition shows some exciting results. Fair enough...

I am hoping we will have no less than 10 fine submissions to showcase.

Thank you Ron and Deniz for seconding my approach... we are staging a much more relaxed atmosphere for this Challenge than the "anxious" one my initial posts alluded to.




bursche -> RE: QUERY: is it still a Solea if….??? (Dec. 29 2009 3:40:53)

All your speaking of whether something is this and that or not finally
made me celebrate


"the ritual"


What is the ritual?


When I get the feeling of having finished a composition I have decided to erase major parts of it in the end in order to intensify the atmosphere.
I only keep the parts with the densest atmosphere no matter if I was content with the parts I dropped.
Was a pain with my first composition but after all it was rewarding.

Now it is time to practice a lot on technical issues in order to do a clean recording...




gj Michelob -> RE: QUERY: is it still a Solea if….??? (Dec. 29 2009 6:34:51)

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What is the ritual?


.... to get "high" on a subtle dissonance you are playing.




bursche -> RE: QUERY: is it still a Solea if….??? (Dec. 29 2009 7:49:35)

And finally I'm afraid I have to part with the tremolo part I liked so much.

But it doesn't fit.




John O. -> RE: QUERY: is it still a Solea if….??? (Dec. 29 2009 9:59:24)

I struggled with alegrias compositions for a while, all my falsetas sounded like bulerias in major key. I was majorly frustrated. I just kept checking out more falsetas and it hit me listening to the cante that my falsetas' melody structure within the compás was off. On most of the falsetas I could just push the melodies forward three beats and even out at the end.

Since figuring that out I've made 4 new alegrias falsetas in the fast week or two. Lesson: don't give up! [:)]




stratos13 -> RE: QUERY: is it still a Solea if….??? (Dec. 29 2009 15:06:42)

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I used to have a Solea that the middle half of was pretty much libre. Basically it wasn't in compas. It wasn't intended to be that way. I asked a few people and they basically said to "call it what you want... it sounds like a solea." Paco Fernandez heard me play it in a concert one night at the New World Flamenco Festival and complemented me on it and he referred to it as a solea. That put it to rest for me. I broke rules yet it was considered by many people I respect to be a solea. Of course there are some who might say otherwise.



Very interesting! I always used a set of my own falsetas for introducing solea, that were not in compas, but they speak like solea. When i was in spain (ive been there once) i played a little for a flamenco guitarist, and he asked me to teach him these few lines, and even though he had not heard a normal compas yet, he named it "great solea falseta".
I promise to upload it soon.
[:)]




John O. -> RE: QUERY: is it still a Solea if….??? (Dec. 30 2009 1:41:08)

Solea like Siguiriya is one of those palos which has a clear compás but can also be libre, it's okay to let tones ring longer, have longer rests, as long as you can feel it like a Solea. I notice this often when I try to practice certain falsetas with a metronome, they're not all made to fit exactly into a rhythm.




bursche -> RE: QUERY: is it still a Solea if….??? (Dec. 30 2009 2:56:53)

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he named it "great solea falseta"


If he was serious about it they must be really good.
Can't wait to hear them.




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