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omega0684

 

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Picado 

was just browsing you-tube and came accross this, its some of the fastest picado i've ever seen! and the piee is great to1


  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 23 2008 10:27:28
 
Ricardo

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RE: Picado (in reply to omega0684

Fast but weak tone. He really needs that piezo that normally, we flamenco players can't stand. He still has too much malmsteen left over in his playing technique for this to be called "picado" for me. To me it is really a different technique. But I respect this crossover style of playing none the less. Just not flamenco really.

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RE: Picado (in reply to omega0684

quote:

its some of the fastest picado i've ever seen!


You must not have seen much.

He's pretty lame actually.
Weak and sloppy.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 23 2008 13:30:56
 
pacowannab

 

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RE: Picado (in reply to omega0684

Besides, is it really just about how fast you can play? To paraphrase Chicuelo, "They talk a lot but say very little".
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 23 2008 13:41:03
 
Munin

 

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RE: Picado (in reply to omega0684

As music, this is truly horrid. And here I was thinking turning my back on electric guitar once and for all would free me from having to hear the Malmsteens and Vais of this world ever again.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 23 2008 14:03:10
 
kovachian

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RE: Picado (in reply to omega0684

As soon as I saw the word 'virtuoso'(!!!), I thought 'ahhhh s***, here we go... ' I'll even bet he broke out some chugga chugga power chords as soon as the camera stopped rolling.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 23 2008 22:03:52
 
Pgh_flamenco

 

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RE: Picado (in reply to omega0684)1 votes

I think a link of this video was posted months ago under the heading "shred" guitar, but the reviews this time around seem to be worse than the last time.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 23 2008 22:53:35
 
omega0684

 

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RE: Picado (in reply to omega0684

ok, so im getting the vibe that people find this guy a poor guitar player, but why, i thought that it was very good but everyone is saying that its bad, i know that its not specifically flamenco but i was more interested in the hand technique he was using, can you please explain to me why you think he is bad, S**t, crap, whatever.

cheers
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 24 2008 5:20:58
 
Arash

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RE: Picado (in reply to omega0684

quote:

ORIGINAL: omega0684

ok, so im getting the vibe that people find this guy a poor guitar player, but why, i thought that it was very good but everyone is saying that its bad, i know that its not specifically flamenco but i was more interested in the hand technique he was using, can you please explain to me why you think he is bad, S**t, crap, whatever.

cheers


he is not a poor guitar player but under flamenco point of view, the sound of his picado is poor.
Maybe you understand better when you compare the sound of the picado from this video (0:15 - 0:18)




with the sound of the picado in your video.
Thats how flamenco picado must sound like.

However, as mentioned he is a good and interesting guitar player....and the Title and the description of the video is good and correct: vituoso spanish guitar ...Latin-Fusion etc...(not flamenco guitar)....
So, no need to bash this guy...he is not claming to play flamenco picado......
But your title was Picado in a flamenco foro ....so the answers are understandable...

p.s. maybe he would sound a little more "flamenco" if he would not play over the soundhole (even with his special technique?)

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Dec. 24 2008 5:47:33
 
HemeolaMan

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RE: Picado (in reply to omega0684

I think essentially, when you call somethign picado, it isnt just a rest stroke.

that guy was using alot of free stroke too, and his rest stroke was.... well wild erratic and flailing lol

look at the range of motion he uses, his finger travels an incredible distance on extension, waaaaaay past the plane of the string, causing irregularity and inconsistency.

he is a very fast player.

he does not have good picado.

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