RE: MY FIRST DOCUMENTARY - making a flamenco guitar

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JBASHORUN

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Escribano

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RE: MY FIRST DOCUMENTARY - making a ... (in reply to Doitsujin)

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So.. 30Euro is a bit expensive IMO

Thanks for the feedback.

I was suggesting £15, not 30 Euros, for a double DVD set. That's around 19 Euros at the current rate.

With my own manufacturing and direct distribution, I keep my costs down but I have take account of filming and editing, fuel, hardware, software, camera (DVX100A) , mics (Sennheiser), Anders' valuable time etc.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 19 2008 14:45:25

HemeolaMan

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RE: MY FIRST DOCUMENTARY - making a ... (in reply to Escribano)

now see that i can do. lol.

and what is taking the peese?how can i use taking the peese to improve my communication skills? can taking the peese work for me?

lol

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 20 2008 3:08:37

Conrad

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RE: MY FIRST DOCUMENTARY - making a ... (in reply to Guest)

My thoughts... aligned with Anil's, too, I would surmise that this is as it is titled, a "documentary", and a delightful looking one at that!! But it is not an instructional on making the guitar, right? How could it be in less than 2 hours? LOL So that is why it should not be too high, but I will pay the 19 euros very happily!!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 20 2008 4:01:29

Anders Eliasson

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RE: MY FIRST DOCUMENTARY - making a ... (in reply to JBASHORUN)

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But it is not an instructional on making the guitar, right?

No, its not an instructional video. I´m not saying: you have to do this or that in order to get this or that. Its not my style. Its a DVD set about me making a flamencoguitar. Its VERY personal. Simon gets really close. I would call it an inspirational DVD where you can learn a lot about guitarmaking or at least you can learn about how I toss around in my workshop.

15 pounds is around 22,- Euros?????? If someone is not interested in paying that, well, their problem, and they can of course feel free to to go out and use their 20 or 22 euros on something else. I hope they will find something more valuable than Simons DVD.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 20 2008 8:37:05

Jim Opfer

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RE: MY FIRST DOCUMENTARY - making a ... (in reply to Escribano)

Ya dancer!
Well kept secret and congrats to you both.
Looks terrific.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 20 2008 10:03:53

kovachian

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RE: MY FIRST DOCUMENTARY - making a ... (in reply to JBASHORUN)

I should've asked earlier, is there any particular date for the release?

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Escribano

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RE: MY FIRST DOCUMENTARY - making a ... (in reply to kovachian)

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I should've asked earlier, is there any particular date for the release?

Week after next. I have to move back to the UK before producing and shipping copies.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 20 2008 10:34:53

Ailsa

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RE: MY FIRST DOCUMENTARY - making a ... (in reply to Jim Opfer)

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ORIGINAL: Jim Opfer
Well kept secret

I knew

I had a sneak preview of a few minutes when I stayed with Simon and Carrot last summer.

I'll definitely have a copy Simon.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 20 2008 10:47:41

gerundino63

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RE: MY FIRST DOCUMENTARY - making a ... (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

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15 pounds is around 22,- Euros?????? If someone is not interested in paying that, well, their problem, and they can of course feel free to to go out and use their 20 or 22 euros on something else. I hope they will find something more valuable than Simons DVD.

Are we talking here about the original "both artists sighned" copy???
THat's a bargain!! LOL

Peter

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 20 2008 11:02:41

Arash

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RE: MY FIRST DOCUMENTARY - making a ... (in reply to JBASHORUN)

@Doitsujin, i am not sensitive at all but i totally disagree with you because of following reasons:

1) We are talking about a product from friends from this foro and not someone we dont know from Encuentro production

2) We all benefit from the FREE foro (Simon) and the informations which a professional guitar builder (like Anders) offer us since years.

3) The profit will be used for maintenance of the foro and not to make Simon or Anders rich (BTW......i think a Software developer for Microsoft and a guitar builder dont really need your or my 5 Euros!

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4) 19 Euros for a double DVD set is not expensive at all

5) I dont think that there is any ALDI in Andalucia

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BTW.....I feel the same here like i was feeling as Ricardo released his CD.
For me this is something completely different than buying something from somewhere else!
And i am not a rich person!

So.... just send me the DVD and charge me whatever you want is my feeling!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 20 2008 12:47:47

edguerin

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RE: MY FIRST DOCUMENTARY - making a ... (in reply to JBASHORUN)

Great! Great ! Great!

Count me in.
I'll be visiting Anders end of September, so I can get my autograph then ...

...

Sean, you misspelled that: eres un *******

Ed

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 20 2008 12:53:30

Arash

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RE: MY FIRST DOCUMENTARY - making a ... (in reply to JBASHORUN)

Oh, and another reason:

Encuentro or other "professionals", sell many thousands of copies of their products all over the world, so they can cover the expenses of the production through the number of the CDs/DVDs they sell.

Here we are talking about a niched product for a special target group who are interested in flamenco guitar building!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 20 2008 13:04:12

Per Hallgren

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RE: MY FIRST DOCUMENTARY - making a ... (in reply to JBASHORUN)

I think the trailer looks very promising and the price is very fair to me. You can count me in Simon. I'll order one copy when you tell me how. And Anders, hope you get a lot of orders to compensate for your time. I admire your capability to work and talk simultanously! Great jobfrom both of you!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2008 8:03:27

Doitsujin

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RE: MY FIRST DOCUMENTARY - making a ... (in reply to Escribano)

I thought this here is a discussion forum? I just told my opinion about the price and also wrote that Im maybe wrong and are waiting for other opinions to maybe change mine.
Well after reading severl other posts, I also think 19Euros is a good price. At least, thats the usual way of dealing about prices. I think Escribando wanted to know what we are thinking about the price. If just some rich people would accept 100$ some people couldnt buy it, no? So I just try to compare the price with some experiences, not more.

Well, some members wrote an answere which are worth to think about and which I appreciate. But what trys this person to tell? Sean must be a genius, becaus his post has a multiple meaning.

He should write poems or something.

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Doitsujin

Eres una ******.

Sean

Well, thanks for the translation Alisa, but I can understand spanish by myself. But what is the message? Maybe he doesnt agree with my opinion about the price of the DVD?

Does he write in spanish that it doesnt sound so harsh? Im wondering why this post isnt deleted by the Admins. [EDIT: just encoding with stars? come on..] In general I would think such attacks have the target to provoke somebody or get an reaction.. But isnt it stupid to do this in a different lenguage? I would attack in english, because everybody would understand me in an english forum..
Well, Im not abused about that, because I have a heart for kids.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2008 11:03:02

Escribano

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RE: MY FIRST DOCUMENTARY - making a ... (in reply to Doitsujin)

Yeah, you're right. I have edited the offending word. I was suggesting a price, but your analysis of the costs of a full-length documentary based on the cost of blank DVDs and a burner is naive.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2008 11:34:25

henrym3483

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RE: MY FIRST DOCUMENTARY - making a ... (in reply to Escribano)

this place is like cheers (minus the rugged good looks of ted danson) or the
pub,where i can sit down and have a chat with the lads and ladies about flamenco. simons price is pretty fair, this place has given us alot of help and im willing to support it by buying the dvd.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2008 11:45:43

Anders Eliasson

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RE: MY FIRST DOCUMENTARY - making a ... (in reply to JBASHORUN)

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I admire your capability to work and talk simultanously!

Haha, Per, what I do is not called talking. Its called babbling and I cant stop it.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2008 12:09:07

Ailsa

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RE: MY FIRST DOCUMENTARY - making a ... (in reply to Doitsujin)

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ORIGINAL: Doitsujin
Well, thanks for the translation Alisa, but I can understand spanish by myself.

It wasn't me that gave you the translation Doit. It was Bash.

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Doitsujin

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RE: MY FIRST DOCUMENTARY - making a ... (in reply to JBASHORUN)

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but your analysis of the costs of a full-length documentary based on the cost of blank DVDs and a burner is naive.

It will become a blockbuster and you and Anders rich... You will see..

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It wasn't me that gave you the translation Doit. It was Bash.

Sorry Ailsa.. I also wrote your name wrong..

I hope you dont be mad that I thought the avatar of JABSHORUN could only belong to a girl...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Apr. 21 2008 13:17:36

Arash

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RE: MY FIRST DOCUMENTARY - making a ... (in reply to Doitsujin)

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ORIGINAL: Doitsujin

(I hope I dont get kicked before I can buy it... )

No worries. Simon lets you buy the DVD first, and kick you afterwards

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p.s. bekommen ist nicht become in englisch

Hab den Fehler aber auch oft gemacht als ich Deutsch und Englisch zusammen gelernt hab

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HemeolaMan

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RE: MY FIRST DOCUMENTARY - making a ... (in reply to JBASHORUN)

okay.... but i still haven't gotten an answer about the peese.

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krichards

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RE: MY FIRST DOCUMENTARY - making a ... (in reply to Escribano)

Lovely film........have watched it several times already.
Anders talks a lot of sense and its really interesting to see how he goes about things.

Its not really instructional, more inspirational. For me it seems to be more about Anders philosophy and approach.

I'm making No 12 at the moment (my 4th flamenco) and watching this gives me confidence that I'm basically getting it right

If you can't travel to Spain and meet good Guitarreros then this is a great substitute

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 26 2008 6:10:38

Anders Eliasson

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RE: MY FIRST DOCUMENTARY - making a ... (in reply to krichards)

Hi Kevin

I´m glad you liked the docu. and thanks for the nice words about my babbling along.

I totally agree in that its not a instructional DVD but more of an inspirational so. I personally find it to be the strong part of the DVD

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