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Mark2
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RE: A 2008 challenge? (in reply to Pimientito)
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Here's one por tangos: golpe with a, up with a, up with i, down with a, down with i, up with a, up with i, down with a, down with i, pause, up with i, down with i, up with i. It's one of those galloping tango ones. also sixteenths: down with i, up with a, up with i, down with a
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Date Nov. 3 2008 9:11:12
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mark indigo
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RE: A 2008 challenge? (in reply to Ron.M)
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quote: i thought the unusual Pepe Habichuela rasgeo was to use m up, m down, i down Hmm..I'll have to look out for that. It seems a bit awkward though... Wouldn't i up, m down, i down i up, m down, i down be more natural for a Flamenco guitarist to use. Is there a video of him doing this on YouTube or anything? almost any vid of him, when it sounds like it's amii it looks kinda weird, and is probably mmim mimm (m up, m down, i down etc.) or amim amii (a down, m down, i down, m up, amii as normal) instead of amii amii both encuentro and faucher notate that way, having transcribed from video and personal sessions, and faucher writes: As an anecdote, Pepe perfected this movement by derivation from a rumba andaluza strumming pattern (very similar to old tangos) he used to play as a child in Granada. In this technique that he had learned from his father Tio Jose, he replaced the thumb of the strong beat by a golpe and the first two index fingers by middle finger. In place of this: P i i i (all down strokes on the beat) he did like this: golpe, m (up), m (down), i (down), From that time onwards the movement was ready and it was sufficient to take out the first beat and its golpe to have a continuous rasgueado after some practising to increase the speed. so yeah, there's one guy that does it this weird way, that he learnt by accident as a kid, so i wouldn't worry too much about it, and would just use amii or aii all down strokes except the 2nd i stroke up in each case....
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Date Nov. 3 2008 10:21:13
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Ricardo
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RE: A 2008 challenge? (in reply to Pimientito)
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For you guys wanted to find up stroke A finger vids for Ron. Well, you guys are right, but Ron said at first "sounds like the way a rock player would do it", and Jason, the only guy who teaches it, WAS a Rock player! That tangos strum (a up, i up, a down i down) is more typically done i up, a,m,i all down.
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Date Nov. 4 2008 7:10:24
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Mark2
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RE: A 2008 challenge? (in reply to Ricardo)
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It may be the same one rhythmically as the one you write about, as you could play it using your sequence. But using different fingers gives a different sound. Jason's has no gallop-all even strokes. Hard to illustrate without a recording-I'll see what I can do. Jason is not the only guy to use an upstroke of "a" in a rasquedo. And even if he was, the sound is flamenco and it works. Ron's use of the term "rock player" in this context most probably didn't refer to the sound Jason gets. Here's a thirteen stroke ras for SpB from Chuscales: pinky down , a down, m down, i down, a up, m up, i up, m down, i down, m up, i up, m down, i down, Four strokes per beat starting on the 7 of the compas-the last stroke is the downbeat of beat ten. Rock on
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Date Nov. 4 2008 8:16:52
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